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While reading the back and forth between @larry-meyers and @immortalconqueror, I was clicking the LOAD NEW POSTS button when something came up. A new member had registered named “russel.” With the period. A moment later, this new user had changed its profile picture to @russell’s only with a grainy, sand-like filter on it. I immediately took a picture with my phone to send to @lilmsfancpants, but then I refreshed and it was gone, and the user appears to no longer exist. Their intentions are clear now. It’s beginning.
(I apologize for the phone-on-computer quality. If I had known it was going to disappear, I would have screen-grabbed.)
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Another. @lukasrl.
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I have been driving, so I missed this as it was unfolding.
Thank you for pointing out that fake profile and sharing that pic Chris / @macbethinabathtub, much appreciated.THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!!!!
(Highlander? anyone? Anyone?)
@lukasrl Glad to hear your old password works, mine did, as well. (As far as acting “normal,” not sure how you can judge me on that or not!) I did not receive a password change request, though.
@larry YOU’RE the shadow people!!! Haha!
@mike Whoever this Russel. guy is… you know he is delicate compared to me. He can’t even carry the weight of two “L’s” Pffft.
@hazelverse There could be several reasons why the profiles appear and are deleted. I think the most obvious is a simple act of flexing a muscle, letting it be known that we are being watched.However, with all this talk of “shadow versions” and reflections, I do wonder if those of us who have been “tagged” in this manner…
are being chosen in some way…
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@bcbishop the other day when we were discussing the inverted profile pics, multiple Clint profiles etc I could’ve sworn you changed your picture to an inverted one. Now that these shadows are popping up and the fact that your picture is normal again I just wanna double check..you did that right??
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@russell (with two “L”s):
Those who have been contacted, or been stalked by their Double, were we all “chosen”?
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@pandace88 Yes, that was me. When it became clear shadow profiles may be an actual thing, I changed my pic back to the original to avoid confusion.
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So far, the only shadow account (aside from @clint-sears) to post and still remain on the forums is @larry-meyers, correct? The others didn’t post, and were deleted?
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Sorry @larry, I did not connect your post to the Sinclair email responses… mainly because I am one of the people who never got any response from them after I answered the follow up questions. So, no, I was not “chosen” as part of that process. Also, I have not received any contact from anyone who might be a “Shadow” of me.
Thanks for the clarification, @lukasrl
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So far, the only shadow account (aside from @clint-sears) to post and still remain on the forums is @larry-meyers, correct? The others didn’t post, and were deleted?
@coryphella Right now, I’m thinking they were deleted because it’s someone on the boards messing with everyone. You know how we all get as soon as even a small ripple in the Tension universe occurs. I’m just not sure if it’s the high powers that be or a participant. -
@larry I totally thought the @larry-meyers post was you just being funny. It wasn’t you? Sounded like some shit you’d say lol
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@pandace88 I don’t even know who’s who anymore. There was one post by my Double talking about Ouroboros. The rest were from me.
I think.
My head hurts.
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Just to clarify a few points here. Has anyone spoken to DLB or CS still? I get the feeling that what they say next may break out a story beat or two. After all, they were the ones that started acting strange in the first place.
I’m actually really curious to go back and listen to their panel and see if anything stands out now with all of these new developments. Hopefully I’ll have something up real soon.
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Uh, hi @bryan. It’s nice to meet you. I think? *Reminds self to stop saying “I’m really curious to tktk” as a vocal tic.*
But yes! Audio was recorded of the panel. It’s taking a little longer to get up than originally anticipated, but it should surface in the next few days.
I’m, uh, really curious to go back and listen to it.
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Interesting verbiage, False-Bryan…
I recall both Clint and Darren using the term “story beats” rather often during the post Tension days but other than that I don’t recall anyone ever saying the phrase. It’s not an unusual phrase but it’s hardly common.
Possible insight into who’s behind the keyboard on these shadow selves?
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As we are dealing with the concepts of people as “brands” and possible tulpas manifested from some unknown agency at the moment (obvious suspicions aside), the idea of identity has always been an overwhelming theme that has been manipulated and distorted to differing degrees in these encounters. What comprises our identity? Our history? Our “data?” Our projections of ourselves throughout various media? What’s to stop an astute and studious …. force from assuming any of our identities at any given time? Especially in the arena such as this forum where we’re are literally interacting specifically with avatars from great distances?
Who among us is not guilty of persona modification? Which of us online is not simply branding ourselves? To what end? Or better yet, where does it end?#burritophilosopher
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I’ll have to argue against the idea of them being tulpas, but the rest of your post brings up some absolutely interesting questions.
The OSDM has never (explicitly) shown the ability to do anything supernatural, so I’d argue against any true “shadow being” or clone of us or anything. But with the OSDM being interested in gathering our data, reactions, and behaviors, presenting falsified versions of us seems a genius way to gauge how we would interact not only with the Lust storyline, but a version of ourselves.
I strongly believe that’s why Darren (and possibly Clint as well?) had to disappear for a while. In addition to needing reprogramming for the next chapter, Darren and Clint already know enough about many of us to accurately portray shadow-versions of us, and for new kids, they’ve more than proven the ability to research their audience enough to form accurate simulacrums
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Everyone, after Shadow @bryan’s post I thought it would be a good idea to check in with Clint and Darren. This is what just happened.
I then asked “Darren” a question about some snacks we had in Austin – namely what they were. He said cookies. They were donuts.
We should not assume Darren and Clint are okay, or have control of their social media accounts at all anymore.
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This reminds me of the video @prufrock5150 noticed during Ascension and the accompanying picture that went along with it. The video was of Addison but was dated 1974 or somewhere around then? This brought up the brief discussion that Addison may have been a clone that has lived many lives constantly being remade and uploaded with the current memories or having non-kosher ones erased.
Perhaps we’re seeing the clones rising with formed memories of the ODSM’s collected data on us?
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Holy crap @bcbishop ! Dude, please be careful! We don’t need you going missing as well!
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@bcbishop Well if that isn’t SUS AS FUCK then I dunno what is!
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@nosnevets Yes, I believe that was the video playing on the TV in the Processing Room.
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Exactly @meghanmayhem The processing video and the accompanying picture of current Addison or rather Overseer standing next to a freeze frame of 70’s yet exactly the same Addison on the screen.
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I think with DLB stating that there was a trigger word, in latin, I forget it exactly… Anyways, the same trigger word was seen used on Sabrina to make her “collapse”.
This makes me believe the OSDM does use tactics such as hypnosis. Obviously it isn’t mind control, as we saw that they are still unable to completely control people (the OSDM – specifically Samson and Noah in Ascension).
Also, as I stated with someone on the forums earlier, the layout of what happened in November (the massacre) was too strategic. Too falsely laid out, even for a play. Who just leaves bodies like that – – unless they want them to be seen? Why would we be lead to believe that everyone was dead at the compound in november and now it has been “burned to the ground”….?
It seems like a mislead. Sarah made sure to let me know we often think we see people but they are not the person we think they are, they just look like them.
And now that I’m hearing Michelle’s voice, via the video posted from the book release party, Sarah could very well be Michelle pretending. But in game my theory aside, she asked if I knew who she was, I said sarah, and she said yes this is sarah.
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These theories are NUTS, yet so obvious… what a paradox these shadow creatures are!
@monkeymuffin333 – I wonder how this will reflect with those who seem to have no “filters” or wear no “masks”, so to speak.
@bcbishop Interesting…. These voices are getting very convoluted…
@babyface and I have been geeking out of the “story beats,” since the Book Release invite showed up in our inboxes. So intrigued as to how they are gunna pull this off. I agree that the evident direction is with these “shadows” being a guiding force. It’s almost like they are communicating what we may have missed through them.I don’t recall who originally brought @light2dark into the discussion… but maybe they are taking a similar role? For now?
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@hazelverse Guiding us? Or throwing us off the scent every time we get too close to something? Remember smoke and mirrors – we should never let ourselves focus on only one path…
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That’s yet to be seen, I supposed @blondie 🙂
I think it’s interesting that shadow Bryan mentions the panel. It’s almost a directive to real Bryan (If I’m keeping things straight…) to upload and share the recording, for it contains within it some new plot point… or “story beat.”
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This is probably nothing, but DLB has another fb page that strangely all the pictures associated with it are blurred out just like the shadow profiles. BUT…. The pictures were posted back in 2011. Still a strange coincidence. (Actually found out the reason they are blurry is because for some reason the pictures are REALLY REALLY Tiny and are pixelated when made large.)
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BREAKING: This video surveillance capture of Shadow Larry plotting with Shadow Sabrina leaked by Dept. of Homeland Security.
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@thegilded Oh, I agree that someone wants him to post the panel. The Shadow Larry posted about the circley snake thing which could have been a clue. I hate being given clues. And I’m not ready to be blindly pushed in a particular direction is all I’m saying. Anti-Tunnel Vision Blondie here…
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@blondie always watchin out.
Good looks girly.
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@hazelverse ❤ My trust issues might come in useful after all, ha ha! Got your back covered homegurl ?
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@larry-meyers is still around as well. Maybe each of these Shadow accounts fulfills a different purpose and that’s why they’re being handled differently. Shadow Larry came on as a response to @larry’s Shadow Theory in order to discredit it, when it obviously turned out to be pretty on the money. It’s safe to assume Lawrence will be back with more in depth theories as things move forward, so they might feel Shadow Larry will be needed again. @bryan’s function seemed to be to deliver an overt clue, since whoever is behind this knew he had the panel recording. Perhaps they’re keeping that one around until the real Bryan fulfills that request. The other two could have just been for the soul purpose of keeping us on our toes or intimidation. To make a shadow version of @russell, someone whose words are responsible for many of us being here in the first place, is definitely disquieting. Simply showing that they CAN do it and then deleting it was threat enough. And @lukasrl was the first person on the forum to acknowledge russel. so that could have been a direct response to his status update. And that might explain why they didn’t have a profile picture ready for him. Making one of Lukas might have been a totally spur of the moment reaction.
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We have willfully placed ourselves into a grand narrative that now consumes us, Frodo.
And like all grand narratives, “we must reclaim the visionary, the utopian, the dream of the better or happier world. These are not childish or lies. These are the transcendence of men — the loss, hurts, realization of mortality we all face — and then celebrate the present, life moment, also.”
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Thinking back to @lilmsfancpants’ call and the Confucius quote… With “Shadow Larry” and “Shadow Bryan” – aren’t we seeing imitation at play here rather than reflection? And imitation IS easy because hell, both fake accounts certainly sounded like the people they were pretending to be…
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@blondie oh wow you are so right! Definitely imitation.
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All of this brings up a really interesting point and I think that point is that if we started this whole thing looking at ourselves and we were tested along the way then who will we wind up seeing staring back at us in the end?
If Noah is tied to Lust and he is now doing self help I just hope that he gets to what we really want. A mix tape.
I know that for myself personally, I find that it can be a bit daunting thinking about all the stuff the ODSM could throw back at us… Am I really ready to go through that? What will it feel like if we don’t like what we see?
Look at the guy’s style. You know his stuff would be ???!!!
I guess anythings possible really, and that’s what both terrifies and excites me.
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@russell-eaton or Mike Eaton or WHOEVER THE FUCK YOU ARE…..
“if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee.”
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Yes @russell-eaton… straight fire. Fire creating dancing shadows.
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Interesting! @russell-eaton profile pic isn’t pixels like the other ones. It looks like a moon. The dark side of the moon?
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@macbethinabathtub well if My shadow life has a podcast, what would it be about. Reviews on tear jerking chick flicks with two hosts that never disagree and speak in a boring monotone format. HA!
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A hearty welcome to new Forums members. I noticed Mike Eaton (aka @russell-eaton) has joined us, and raised a couple of interesting points.
I feel many of us did enter LUST looking at ourselves… because that’s where Tension led us. All that we placed faith in (okay… some of us placed faith in) was revealed to be a house of illusion, a (dare-I-say-it) reflection of what we HOPED would be left standing when The End came.
I can certainly relate to your conflict of excitement and worry Mike Eaton, I feel it, too… oh, but I bet that does not surprise anyone we might share some similar emotions, haha!
Noah? Indeed, the man has made some pretty big promises of what he can deliver… but to which of
“the sheep” shall the rewards be delivered?And, yes…. there is always the comfort offered by a really good mix tape.
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@russell your reply to this imposter is surprising to me. How many discussions have we have about data mining and the data OSDM has taken from us? Yet someone uses your full name as a profile name (as well as mine) and you welcome them? Keep an eye on your accounts and credit score my friend! Just looking out for ya!
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You’re right @mike. I know… I know…
But, come on, you know me… I trust first. It’s one of my greatest strengths and greatest weaknesses.
The OSDM knows this already about me. They know where I invested in the past and they know where I pulled back. I am sure they feel they know where they succeeded with me and where they failed.
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Just a thought on imitation or reflection: it was Bryan I believe that had the conversation on the phone (with possibly Michelle?) about how believing in something brings it into existence. If enough people then chose to believe in a shadow self instead of the real person, does that make the real person innately less him or herself?
If so much of how we define self can be derived through how we see ourselves reflected in the perspectives of others, an imitation can still serve as a reflection of a sort when what it illuminates is the cliches of yourself that other people can so easily imitate so that you might almost be erased.
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@acedefective, this sounds like the Tinkerbell Effect. Named after Tinkerbell, it describes that things are thought to exist only because people believe in them.
Also, there’s a reverse Tinkerbell effect–in which the more you believe in something, the more likely they are to vanish. This may be why the shadow profiles disappeared. Let’s believe in @bryan now!
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@russell-eaton If like you said, we started this whole thing looking at ourselves and were tested, who would be sraring back at us.
Personally I would have to say, to be honest I may not have the most innocent past, in fact my past is corrupt and perverse, but I am no longer that person. But my past is what made me who I am today. To be honest, I’m pretty damn proud of who I have become, and will become.
“I could tell you my adventures-from beginning this morning. But it’s no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then.” ~Alice Liddell
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@mike You keep your friends close, but your enemies closer….
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Now you understand our relationship @larry
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No, now you understand OUR relationship, @mike
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That’s what I just said @larry Glad to see you moved onto the “imitation” step 😛
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If so much of how we define self can be derived through how we see ourselves reflected in the perspectives of others, an imitation can still serve as a reflection of a sort when what it illuminates is the cliches of yourself that other people can so easily imitate so that you might almost be erased.
@acedefective what you said here hit me hard..I think I’m in a weird place right now..but I’m glad I read this. It’s making me think about some shit on a personal level. -
@acedefective This…I like.
@candypops Think. Meditate. Speak to that voice. -
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Last night, when Shadow Russell appeared, I couldn’t quite tell the profile picture. Now that I’m on a computer, I can see that it’s Russell and I’s profile pictured combined…almost like a yin and yang type of thing. Maybe he and I are the shadow versions of each other?
I can’t wait to see the next bastard child hybrid. Andrew Wallick? Buz Kasch?
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@mike My God, would that be appropo…
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@mike, in our friendship, I do see you sometimes as a “Shadow” version of myself. Similar interests, very different perspective. (Usually from a darker perspective than my own.)
So, do “Shadow-versions” simply reflect that which is ALREADY PRESENT in the original?
This talk of reflection and “A Theory of Spectacular Surface Geometry” points to the idea that what exists is real and the reflection is so accurate that confusion may result by not being able to tell the difference between the original and the copy.
Apply that to people,,, perhaps the “Shadow-version” exists only to bring fully into light that which we may be hiding – from the world and maybe even ourselves. Good and Evil can sometimes resemble each other. Perhaps one of the things going on may be an attempt to lure out of us the darker impulses that already exist within our hearts. (I think Noah Sinclair would understand what I am getting at.)
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@russell Exactly. Jung posits that our ongoing goal in finding The Self — unification of the conscious and the unconscious.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_in_Jungian_psychology
Of course, I think of YOU as Mike’s Shadow!
And I can’t believe you wouldn’t pay for a meet-and-greet with me.
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Oh… I would pay good money to have a meet and greet with Andrew Wallick or Buz Kasch.
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I mean… that’s just @kasch and I on a day to day.
Also I am glad we have the last names we do. Buz Kasch and Andrew Wallick don’t have a great ring to them.
Andrew, if one of us dies definitely don’t name a future kid after each other.
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@pandace88 Both! It lurks in your unconscious, and your goal is to bring it to consciousness. To dialogue with it. Ask what it wants. Ever been around someone that “rubs you the wrong way”? Likely it’s because they are exhibiting qualities you don’t like in yourself.
You gotta see “The Babadook”, which is all about a mother who didn’t want her son, and he’s a pain in the ass, and secretly wishes he were dead. The Babadook is this creature that terrorizes them, and it’s a great example of the manifestation of her Shadow.
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@larry I have seen that actually and that definitely makes sense. And I’ve heard that before what you like or don’t like about a person reflects what u like or don’t like about yourself.
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@pandace88 I FUCKING LOVE THAT MOVIE.
And think to yourself, how does it end?
SPOILERS…..SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS……………………………..
It ends with the creature in the basement. Hidden away, not destroyed (because you can’t destroy the Shadow), but acknowledged and understood, and fed.
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@larry omg you’re so right! I need to watch it again now with a whole new LUST shadow perspective! !
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@pandace88 I need to re-examine my entire life from a LUST perspective.
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I think they missed the boat by not calling you guys missell (get it? missile, lust, heh heh)
OMG!!! This is the best, Jake! I am in love with this new ship (is that the word millennials use).
And I hear @mike saying “Lust”
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Hahahaha! Wow, @jakeo, that made me… dare I say it… snicker.
#teamkitkatforever 🙂
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@russell #teamroomtempbeefjerky
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