SHADOW RUSSEL– the doppelgängers have arrived

This topic has 110 replies, 33 voices, and was last updated 5 years, 6 months ago by JakeO.

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    • #2383
       Chris
      Participant

      While reading the back and forth between @larry-meyers and @immortalconqueror, I was clicking the LOAD NEW POSTS button when something came up. A new member had registered named “russel.” With the period. A moment later, this new user had changed its profile picture to @russell’s only with a grainy, sand-like filter on it. I immediately took a picture with my phone to send to @lilmsfancpants, but then I refreshed and it was gone, and the user appears to no longer exist. Their intentions are clear now. It’s beginning.

      (I apologize for the phone-on-computer quality. If I had known it was going to disappear, I would have screen-grabbed.)

      SHADOW RUSSEL

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    • #2387
       Mike
      Participant

      So glad you caught a screenshot of this!

      You’d think shadow Russell would only have 1 “s” and 1 “l”. Is shadow Rusel a delicate flower?

    • #2388
       Lawrence Meyers
      Participant

      I think you mean “shrinking violet”, which I know you have experience with.

    • #2389
       Lawrence Meyers
      Participant

    • #2392
       Chris
      Participant

      Another. @lukasrl.

      Shadow Lukas

    • #2393
       Meghan Mayhem
      Participant

    • #2395
       Lukas L
      Participant

      Someone has or is trying to hack us.

    • #2396
       thehazelverse
      Participant

      I am intrigued! This direction, I did not see coming. I wonder how they’ll apply this theme as time persists.

    • #2399
       Chris
      Participant

      Interesting difference between the two occurrences. Shadow Russel added a profile pic immediately after the profile was created, and then disappeared completely right after. @lukasl still exists, and they haven’t added a picture yet.

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    • #2402
       Chris
      Participant

      Annnd as soon as I post that, the profile is gone.

    • #2403
       thehazelverse
      Participant

      This is so strange. Why would they create them just to delete them?

    • #2404
       Lukas L
      Participant

      I saw it. We may need to fact check someone is actually that person if someone we know in the community is acting “nor normal”

    • #2405
       Lukas L
      Participant

      Also could have something to do with all the mirror ref. Multiple people getting a eevil twin

    • #2406
       Lukas L
      Participant

      I’m just wondering if they were sucessful in reseting my password. Only one way to find out. Eh.

    • #2407
       thehazelverse
      Participant

      I just don’t get why they would delete them then? Lol

    • #2408
       Lukas L
      Participant

      Old password still works for now.

    • #2413
       Russell
      Participant

      I have been driving, so I missed this as it was unfolding.
      Thank you for pointing out that fake profile and sharing that pic Chris / @macbethinabathtub, much appreciated.

      THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!!!!
      (Highlander? anyone? Anyone?)


      @lukasrl
      Glad to hear your old password works, mine did, as well. (As far as acting “normal,” not sure how you can judge me on that or not!) I did not receive a password change request, though.


      @larry
      YOU’RE the shadow people!!! Haha!


      @mike
      Whoever this Russel. guy is… you know he is delicate compared to me. He can’t even carry the weight of two “L’s” Pffft.


      @hazelverse
      There could be several reasons why the profiles appear and are deleted. I think the most obvious is a simple act of flexing a muscle, letting it be known that we are being watched.

      However, with all this talk of “shadow versions” and reflections, I do wonder if those of us who have been “tagged” in this manner…
      are being chosen in some way…
      marked for a future purpose…
      or targeted.

    • #2417
       Candace
      Participant

      @bcbishop the other day when we were discussing the inverted profile pics, multiple Clint profiles etc I could’ve sworn you changed your picture to an inverted one. Now that these shadows are popping up and the fact that your picture is normal again I just wanna double check..you did that right??

    • #2418
       Lawrence Meyers
      Participant

      @russell (with two “L”s):

      Those who have been contacted, or been stalked by their Double, were we all “chosen”?

      • #2421
         Russell
        Participant

        @larry I think only time will reveal that… or perhaps we choose to put faith in the idea that we were “chosen,” which I think is what @lukasrl is doing. (I like the proactive thinking there!)

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    • #2419
       Bryan Bishop
      Participant

      @pandace88 Yes, that was me. When it became clear shadow profiles may be an actual thing, I changed my pic back to the original to avoid confusion.

    • #2420
       Lukas L
      Participant

      I was chosen

    • #2425
       Lukas L
      Participant

      Oh @russell I thought @larry was asking if we both got chosen emails from Sara S

    • #2430
       Lawrence Meyers
      Participant

      Sorry, I was asking if the people who were “chosen” have either since been contacted by Sarah or encountered their Double.

    • #2433
       Megan
      Participant

      So far, the only shadow account (aside from @clint-sears) to post and still remain on the forums is @larry-meyers, correct? The others didn’t post, and were deleted?

    • #2434
       Russell
      Participant

      Sorry @larry, I did not connect your post to the Sinclair email responses… mainly because I am one of the people who never got any response from them after I answered the follow up questions. So, no, I was not “chosen” as part of that process. Also, I have not received any contact from anyone who might be a “Shadow” of me.

      Thanks for the clarification, @lukasrl

    • #2439
       M.
      Participant

      So far, the only shadow account (aside from @clint-sears) to post and still remain on the forums is @larry-meyers, correct? The others didn’t post, and were deleted?


      @coryphella
      Right now, I’m thinking they were deleted because it’s someone on the boards messing with everyone. You know how we all get as soon as even a small ripple in the Tension universe occurs. I’m just not sure if it’s the high powers that be or a participant.

    • #2440
       Candace
      Participant

      @larry I totally thought the @larry-meyers post was you just being funny. It wasn’t you? Sounded like some shit you’d say lol

    • #2441
       Lawrence Meyers
      Participant

      @pandace88 I don’t even know who’s who anymore. There was one post by my Double talking about Ouroboros. The rest were from me.

      I think.

      My head hurts.

    • #2445
       Masomoment
      Participant

      I’m so glad someone caught this, looks like its beginning…

      I do wonder why they delete them though.

    • #2448
       Mustafa Said
      Participant

      I also find it strange that they’re being created and deleted…

    • #2449
       Bryan Bishop
      Participant

      Just to clarify a few points here. Has anyone spoken to DLB or CS still? I get the feeling that what they say next may break out a story beat or two. After all, they were the ones that started acting strange in the first place.

      I’m actually really curious to go back and listen to their panel and see if anything stands out now with all of these new developments. Hopefully I’ll have something up real soon.

      • #2450
         Mustafa Said
        Participant

        Is there anywhere to listen or see the panel?

    • #2453
       Chris
      Participant

      A shadow posting in the Shadow thread is truly the height of meta. Welcome to the discussion, @bryan. @bcbishop, your thoughts? Sounds like someone wants you to think back to what you heard at the panel. Who says all shadows are bad?

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    • #2454
       Mustafa Said
      Participant

      Hahahahaha! I missed that. Need to start checking profile pics and usernames better lol 🙂

    • #2455
       Lia
      Participant

      It’s a battle of the Bryans! Maybe they’re here to help us find things that we’ve missed. Or lead us astray…

    • #2458
       Bryan Bishop
      Participant

      Uh, hi @bryan. It’s nice to meet you. I think? *Reminds self to stop saying “I’m really curious to tktk” as a vocal tic.*

      But yes! Audio was recorded of the panel. It’s taking a little longer to get up than originally anticipated, but it should surface in the next few days.

      I’m, uh, really curious to go back and listen to it.

    • #2461
       Sean
      Moderator

      Interesting verbiage, False-Bryan…

      I recall both Clint and Darren using the term “story beats” rather often during the post Tension days but other than that I don’t recall anyone ever saying the phrase. It’s not an unusual phrase but it’s hardly common.

      Possible insight into who’s behind the keyboard on these shadow selves?

    • #2463
       monkeymuffin333
      Participant

      As we are dealing with the concepts of people as “brands” and possible tulpas manifested from some unknown agency at the moment (obvious suspicions aside), the idea of identity has always been an overwhelming theme that has been manipulated and distorted to differing degrees in these encounters. What comprises our identity? Our history? Our “data?” Our projections of ourselves throughout various media? What’s to stop an astute and studious …. force from assuming any of our identities at any given time? Especially in the arena such as this forum where we’re are literally interacting specifically with avatars from great distances?
      Who among us is not guilty of persona modification? Which of us online is not simply branding ourselves? To what end? Or better yet, where does it end?

      #burritophilosopher

    • #2464
       Sean
      Moderator

      I’ll have to argue against the idea of them being tulpas, but the rest of your post brings up some absolutely interesting questions.

      The OSDM has never (explicitly) shown the ability to do anything supernatural, so I’d argue against any true “shadow being” or clone of us or anything. But with the OSDM being interested in gathering our data, reactions, and behaviors, presenting falsified versions of us seems a genius way to gauge how we would interact not only with the Lust storyline, but a version of ourselves.

      I strongly believe that’s why Darren (and possibly Clint as well?) had to disappear for a while. In addition to needing reprogramming for the next chapter, Darren and Clint already know enough about many of us to accurately portray shadow-versions of us, and for new kids, they’ve more than proven the ability to research their audience enough to form accurate simulacrums

    • #2467
       Bryan Bishop
      Participant

      Everyone, after Shadow @bryan’s post I thought it would be a good idea to check in with Clint and Darren. This is what just happened.

      I then asked “Darren” a question about some snacks we had in Austin – namely what they were. He said cookies. They were donuts.

      We should not assume Darren and Clint are okay, or have control of their social media accounts at all anymore.

      • #2473
         Nosnevets
        Participant

        This reminds me of the video @prufrock5150 noticed during Ascension and the accompanying picture that went along with it. The video was of Addison but was dated 1974 or somewhere around then? This brought up the brief discussion that Addison may have been a clone that has lived many lives constantly being remade and uploaded with the current memories or having non-kosher ones erased.

        Perhaps we’re seeing the clones rising with formed memories of the ODSM’s collected data on us?

    • #2470
       Mike
      Participant

      Holy crap @bcbishop ! Dude, please be careful! We don’t need you going missing as well!

    • #2471
       Meghan Mayhem
      Participant

      Goddamn DLB & Clint.

    • #2472
       Melissa
      Participant

      @bcbishop Well if that isn’t SUS AS FUCK then I dunno what is!

    • #2474
       Meghan Mayhem
      Participant

      @nosnevets Yes, I believe that was the video playing on the TV in the Processing Room.

      • #2476
         Nosnevets
        Participant

        Exactly @meghanmayhem The processing video and the accompanying picture of current Addison or rather Overseer standing next to a freeze frame of 70’s yet exactly the same Addison on the screen.

    • #2475
       Candace
      Participant

      Donuts! The answer is always donuts with this group!

    • #2477
       Anonymous
      Inactive

      I think with DLB stating that there was a trigger word, in latin, I forget it exactly… Anyways, the same trigger word was seen used on Sabrina to make her “collapse”.

      This makes me believe the OSDM does use tactics such as hypnosis. Obviously it isn’t mind control, as we saw that they are still unable to completely control people (the OSDM – specifically Samson and Noah in Ascension).

      Also, as I stated with someone on the forums earlier, the layout of what happened in November (the massacre) was too strategic. Too falsely laid out, even for a play. Who just leaves bodies like that – – unless they want them to be seen? Why would we be lead to believe that everyone was dead at the compound in november and now it has been “burned to the ground”….?

      It seems like a mislead. Sarah made sure to let me know we often think we see people but they are not the person we think they are, they just look like them.

      And now that I’m hearing Michelle’s voice, via the video posted from the book release party, Sarah could very well be Michelle pretending. But in game my theory aside, she asked if I knew who she was, I said sarah, and she said yes this is sarah.

    • #2479
       thehazelverse
      Participant

      These theories are NUTS, yet so obvious… what a paradox these shadow creatures are!


      @monkeymuffin333
      – I wonder how this will reflect with those who seem to have no “filters” or wear no “masks”, so to speak.


      @bcbishop
      Interesting…. These voices are getting very convoluted…


      @babyface
      and I have been geeking out of the “story beats,” since the Book Release invite showed up in our inboxes. So intrigued as to how they are gunna pull this off. I agree that the evident direction is with these “shadows” being a guiding force. It’s almost like they are communicating what we may have missed through them.

      I don’t recall who originally brought @light2dark into the discussion… but maybe they are taking a similar role? For now?

      • #2483
         Blondie
        Participant

        @hazelverse Guiding us? Or throwing us off the scent every time we get too close to something? Remember smoke and mirrors – we should never let ourselves focus on only one path…

      • #2484
         thehazelverse
        Participant

        That’s yet to be seen, I supposed @blondie 🙂

        I think it’s interesting that shadow Bryan mentions the panel. It’s almost a directive to real Bryan (If I’m keeping things straight…) to upload and share the recording, for it contains within it some new plot point… or “story beat.”

    • #2481
       Lukas L
      Participant

      This is probably nothing, but DLB has another fb page that strangely all the pictures associated with it are blurred out just like the shadow profiles. BUT…. The pictures were posted back in 2011. Still a strange coincidence. (Actually found out the reason they are blurry is because for some reason the pictures are REALLY REALLY Tiny and are pixelated when made large.)

      https://www.facebook.com/darrenlynn.bousman1

    • #2482
       Lawrence Meyers
      Participant

      BREAKING: This video surveillance capture of Shadow Larry plotting with Shadow Sabrina leaked by Dept. of Homeland Security.

      <img src=”
      http://imgur.com/a/nB9N7&#8243; alt=”” />

    • #2486
       Blondie
      Participant

      Just wondering if Real Bryan was looking into anything theory-wise before Shadow Bryan appeared. I can’t shake the feeling this is all a distraction

    • #2487
       Sean
      Moderator

      I gotta think it’s more of a hint than a distraction. That’s as close to a big glowing arrow pointing directly at the Panel recordings as we’re gonna get.

      I get the feeling it’s more of a “hurry up and post” than a distraction

    • #2488
       thehazelverse
      Participant

      All I want to do is hear that recording now!!

      SOOOOOO clooooose yet sooooo far awaaaaay.

    • #2489
       Blondie
      Participant

      @thegilded Oh, I agree that someone wants him to post the panel. The Shadow Larry posted about the circley snake thing which could have been a clue. I hate being given clues. And I’m not ready to be blindly pushed in a particular direction is all I’m saying. Anti-Tunnel Vision Blondie here…

    • #2490
       thehazelverse
      Participant

      @blondie always watchin out.

      Good looks girly.

    • #2491
       Blondie
      Participant

      @hazelverse ❤ My trust issues might come in useful after all, ha ha! Got your back covered homegurl ?

    • #2492
       Mustafa Said
      Participant

      Shadow Bryan’s account is still…here. It wasn’t deleted like the others.

      Granted, from what I can tell the other accounts didn’t say anything and Shadow Bryan did. But I still wonder why that one remains.

    • #2493
       Chris
      Participant

      @larry-meyers is still around as well. Maybe each of these Shadow accounts fulfills a different purpose and that’s why they’re being handled differently. Shadow Larry came on as a response to @larry’s Shadow Theory in order to discredit it, when it obviously turned out to be pretty on the money. It’s safe to assume Lawrence will be back with more in depth theories as things move forward, so they might feel Shadow Larry will be needed again. @bryan’s function seemed to be to deliver an overt clue, since whoever is behind this knew he had the panel recording. Perhaps they’re keeping that one around until the real Bryan fulfills that request. The other two could have just been for the soul purpose of keeping us on our toes or intimidation. To make a shadow version of @russell, someone whose words are responsible for many of us being here in the first place, is definitely disquieting. Simply showing that they CAN do it and then deleting it was threat enough. And @lukasrl was the first person on the forum to acknowledge russel. so that could have been a direct response to his status update. And that might explain why they didn’t have a profile picture ready for him. Making one of Lukas might have been a totally spur of the moment reaction.

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    • #2497
       Lawrence Meyers
      Participant

      @macbethinabathtub

      We have willfully placed ourselves into a grand narrative that now consumes us, Frodo.

      And like all grand narratives, “we must reclaim the visionary, the utopian, the dream of the better or happier world. These are not childish or lies. These are the transcendence of men — the loss, hurts, realization of mortality we all face — and then celebrate the present, life moment, also.”

    • #2519
       thehazelverse
      Participant

      Definitely agree that each shadow has a specific purpose. This is very Burn After Reading. I’m Lovin’ It.

      luvin it

      P.S: Are we allowed to say fuck in our gifs? lol

    • #2520
       Blondie
      Participant

      Thinking back to @lilmsfancpants’ call and the Confucius quote… With “Shadow Larry” and “Shadow Bryan” – aren’t we seeing imitation at play here rather than reflection? And imitation IS easy because hell, both fake accounts certainly sounded like the people they were pretending to be…

    • #2521
       Candace
      Participant

      @blondie oh wow you are so right! Definitely imitation.

    • #2522
       Maranda
      Participant

      If what we’re seeing is indeed imitation, then does that mean the reflection step has already passed? What could it have been?

    • #2523
       Sage
      Participant

      So does anyone have a video of the panel that Shadow Bryan was suggesting we watch??? Please post if you you??

    • #2524
       Mike Eaton
      Participant

      All of this brings up a really interesting point and I think that point is that if we started this whole thing looking at ourselves and we were tested along the way then who will we wind up seeing staring back at us in the end?

      If Noah is tied to Lust and he is now doing self help I just hope that he gets to what we really want. A mix tape.

      I know that for myself personally, I find that it can be a bit daunting thinking about all the stuff the ODSM could throw back at us… Am I really ready to go through that? What will it feel like if we don’t like what we see?

      Look at the guy’s style. You know his stuff would be ???!!!

      I guess anythings possible really, and that’s what both terrifies and excites me.

      • #2528
         Lawrence Meyers
        Participant

        @russell-eaton or Mike Eaton or WHOEVER THE FUCK YOU ARE…..

        “if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee.”

    • #2525
       Anonymous
      Inactive

      Yes @russell-eaton… straight fire. Fire creating dancing shadows.

    • #2526
       Lukas L
      Participant

      Interesting! @russell-eaton profile pic isn’t pixels like the other ones. It looks like a moon. The dark side of the moon?

    • #2527
       Chris
      Participant

      They must have realized why just settle for only @russell’s shadow when you can combine him and @mike to create the ultimate malevolent podcast host? Can a link to My Shadow Life be too far off?

    • #2529
       Lukas L
      Participant

      @macbethinabathtub well if My shadow life has a podcast, what would it be about. Reviews on tear jerking chick flicks with two hosts that never disagree and speak in a boring monotone format. HA!

    • #2530
       Megan
      Participant

      I was busy for ONE DAY and I missed TWO NEW SHADOWS??

    • #2532
       Mike
      Participant

      Oh…alright. Shits getting real now!

      Noah wants a mixtape? What interesting timing for that 🙂

    • #2534
       Taylor Winters
      Participant

      This is getting really good! Time to do some digging!

      And can’t wait to see that SXSW video!

    • #2535
       Mike
      Participant

      If Noah is tied to Lust and he is now doing self help I just hope that he gets to what we really want. A mix tape.

      Just sent him a mix. Maybe he can use it as an entrance theme to his seminars.

    • #2536
       Russell
      Participant

      A hearty welcome to new Forums members. I noticed Mike Eaton (aka @russell-eaton) has joined us, and raised a couple of interesting points.

      I feel many of us did enter LUST looking at ourselves… because that’s where Tension led us. All that we placed faith in (okay… some of us placed faith in) was revealed to be a house of illusion, a (dare-I-say-it) reflection of what we HOPED would be left standing when The End came.

      I can certainly relate to your conflict of excitement and worry Mike Eaton, I feel it, too… oh, but I bet that does not surprise anyone we might share some similar emotions, haha!

      Noah? Indeed, the man has made some pretty big promises of what he can deliver… but to which of
      “the sheep” shall the rewards be delivered?

      And, yes…. there is always the comfort offered by a really good mix tape.
      I just happen to know a guy who produces the best, if you need any recommendations.

    • #2537
       Mike
      Participant

      @russell your reply to this imposter is surprising to me. How many discussions have we have about data mining and the data OSDM has taken from us? Yet someone uses your full name as a profile name (as well as mine) and you welcome them? Keep an eye on your accounts and credit score my friend! Just looking out for ya!

    • #2538
       Russell
      Participant

      You’re right @mike. I know… I know…

      But, come on, you know me… I trust first. It’s one of my greatest strengths and greatest weaknesses.
      The OSDM knows this already about me. They know where I invested in the past and they know where I pulled back. I am sure they feel they know where they succeeded with me and where they failed.
      Thank you for looking out for me, I will look out for you, as well, if that time comes.

    • #2539
       Beth
      Participant

      Just a thought on imitation or reflection: it was Bryan I believe that had the conversation on the phone (with possibly Michelle?) about how believing in something brings it into existence. If enough people then chose to believe in a shadow self instead of the real person, does that make the real person innately less him or herself?

      If so much of how we define self can be derived through how we see ourselves reflected in the perspectives of others, an imitation can still serve as a reflection of a sort when what it illuminates is the cliches of yourself that other people can so easily imitate so that you might almost be erased.

    • #2540
       David R.
      Participant

      Maybe Mike Eaton doesn’t realize what it does. Maybe it was created from the void, with just as many questions about itself as anybody could have for it.

    • #2541
       Taylor Winters
      Participant

      @acedefective, this sounds like the Tinkerbell Effect. Named after Tinkerbell, it describes that things are thought to exist only because people believe in them.

      Also, there’s a reverse Tinkerbell effect–in which the more you believe in something, the more likely they are to vanish. This may be why the shadow profiles disappeared. Let’s believe in @bryan now!

    • #2542
       Lukas L
      Participant

      @russell-eaton If like you said, we started this whole thing looking at ourselves and were tested, who would be sraring back at us.

      Personally I would have to say, to be honest I may not have the most innocent past, in fact my past is corrupt and perverse, but I am no longer that person. But my past is what made me who I am today. To be honest, I’m pretty damn proud of who I have become, and will become.

      “I could tell you my adventures-from beginning this morning. But it’s no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then.” ~Alice Liddell

    • #2551
       Lawrence Meyers
      Participant

      @mike You keep your friends close, but your enemies closer….

    • #2553
       Mike
      Participant

      Now you understand our relationship @larry

    • #2561
       Mike
      Participant

      That’s what I just said @larry Glad to see you moved onto the “imitation” step 😛

    • #2562
       Lawrence Meyers
      Participant
    • #2565
       Michael Rizzo
      Participant

      I’ve been gone for a few days in the mountains and Now shadows?? Lust is too sus already

      • #2567
         Brad Ruwe
        Participant

        I know right? You go searching for your missing friend and the whole world gets turned upside down.

    • #2572
       Candace
      Participant

      If so much of how we define self can be derived through how we see ourselves reflected in the perspectives of others, an imitation can still serve as a reflection of a sort when what it illuminates is the cliches of yourself that other people can so easily imitate so that you might almost be erased.


      @acedefective
      what you said here hit me hard..I think I’m in a weird place right now..but I’m glad I read this. It’s making me think about some shit on a personal level.

    • #2576
       Lawrence Meyers
      Participant

      @acedefective This…I like.


      @candypops
      Think. Meditate. Speak to that voice.

    • #2578
       Candace
      Participant

      For a second I thought I had a shaDow but then I realized you just tagged a different Candace. Lol

    • #2584
       Mike
      Participant

      Last night, when Shadow Russell appeared, I couldn’t quite tell the profile picture. Now that I’m on a computer, I can see that it’s Russell and I’s profile pictured combined…almost like a yin and yang type of thing. Maybe he and I are the shadow versions of each other?

      I can’t wait to see the next bastard child hybrid. Andrew Wallick? Buz Kasch?

    • #2587
       Andrew Kasch
      Participant

      @mike My God, would that be appropo…

    • #2774
       Russell
      Participant

      @mike, in our friendship, I do see you sometimes as a “Shadow” version of myself. Similar interests, very different perspective. (Usually from a darker perspective than my own.)

      So, do “Shadow-versions” simply reflect that which is ALREADY PRESENT in the original?

      This talk of reflection and “A Theory of Spectacular Surface Geometry” points to the idea that what exists is real and the reflection is so accurate that confusion may result by not being able to tell the difference between the original and the copy.

      Apply that to people,,, perhaps the “Shadow-version” exists only to bring fully into light that which we may be hiding – from the world and maybe even ourselves. Good and Evil can sometimes resemble each other. Perhaps one of the things going on may be an attempt to lure out of us the darker impulses that already exist within our hearts. (I think Noah Sinclair would understand what I am getting at.)

    • #2775
       Russell
      Participant

      Oh… I would pay good money to have a meet and greet with Andrew Wallick or Buz Kasch.


      @kasch
      @thebuz

    • #2794
       Anonymous
      Inactive

      I mean… that’s just @kasch and I on a day to day.

      Also I am glad we have the last names we do. Buz Kasch and Andrew Wallick don’t have a great ring to them.

      Andrew, if one of us dies definitely don’t name a future kid after each other.

    • #2827
       Candace
      Participant

      @russell @larry I’m definitely on the same page with you guys! This makes sense to me and would be a very interesting undertaking on their part. Is my shadow who I am when no one is looking? Or a part of me I hide even from myself?

    • #2829
       Lawrence Meyers
      Participant

      @pandace88 Both! It lurks in your unconscious, and your goal is to bring it to consciousness. To dialogue with it. Ask what it wants. Ever been around someone that “rubs you the wrong way”? Likely it’s because they are exhibiting qualities you don’t like in yourself.

      You gotta see “The Babadook”, which is all about a mother who didn’t want her son, and he’s a pain in the ass, and secretly wishes he were dead. The Babadook is this creature that terrorizes them, and it’s a great example of the manifestation of her Shadow.

    • #2830
       Candace
      Participant

      @larry I have seen that actually and that definitely makes sense. And I’ve heard that before what you like or don’t like about a person reflects what u like or don’t like about yourself.

    • #2831
       Lawrence Meyers
      Participant

      @pandace88 I FUCKING LOVE THAT MOVIE.

      And think to yourself, how does it end?

      SPOILERS…..SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS…SPOILERS……………………………..

      It ends with the creature in the basement. Hidden away, not destroyed (because you can’t destroy the Shadow), but acknowledged and understood, and fed.

    • #2839
       Candace
      Participant

      @larry omg you’re so right! I need to watch it again now with a whole new LUST shadow perspective! !

    • #2841
       Lawrence Meyers
      Participant

      @pandace88 I need to re-examine my entire life from a LUST perspective.

    • #3027
       JakeO
      Participant

      @russell @mike wow, I’m jealous. I want a shadow Jake.

      I think they missed the boat by not calling you guys missell (get it? missile, lust, heh heh)

    • #3057
       M.
      Participant

      I think they missed the boat by not calling you guys missell (get it? missile, lust, heh heh)

      OMG!!! This is the best, Jake! I am in love with this new ship (is that the word millennials use).

      And I hear @mike saying “Lust”

    • #3063
       Russell
      Participant

      Hahahaha! Wow, @jakeo, that made me… dare I say it… snicker.

      #teamkitkatforever 🙂

      • #3104
         JakeO
        Participant

        @russell #teamroomtempbeefjerky

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