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The Hostess with the mostess is tweeting a storm.
This recalls the phone call I got possibly referring to a promise someone made to Noah.
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Ah, I just love the smell of succulents in the afternoon…
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Moved @kipsie posts here.
Twitter leaks and discussion moved here.
Friendly reminder to not just discuss in Slack.
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Why post any of this if innocent people are going to be shafted?
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They’re performing non-simulated sexual acts? And this genetic testing stuff is pretty sus… are they looking for a “vessel?”
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@bruinbown Could the genetic testing be linked to an earlier Horace conversation about birthing babes a few months ago? I vaguely recall at one point he was talking about women being walking baby machines (not his actual words) awhile back…
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Also a way to get peoples blood and DNA. Food for thought.
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@theladyj Hostess in Black seems to be a disgruntled actor of sorts, but @thecontroller tried to do damage control and say that Hostess in Black was something else.
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@brianamatopoeia Not sure. It would seem weird that an NDA wouldn’t be involved with the contract.
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@brianamatopoeia She could have been sent this but never signed it.
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Sexual acts and genetic testing? BRING ON THE SEX CHAPTER IM READY FOR THE NAUGHTY… But seriously, going along with the reference to women being baby machines, maybe that is the true nature behind recruiting people and having them sign away their rights… I’m keeping an eye out for Sarah Thompson’s name
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@cristen Yes, absolutely!
@shankfx22 It would be an easy way to do it, especially if they are fixating on a certain type of appearance and build during the casting calls. A filtering of sorts… -
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A point that I find curious: The actors are to submit to one STI (sexually transmitted infection is the preferred nonjudgemental nomenclature instead of sexually transmitted disease) panel, not several over a period of time.
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@kasch right!?! I was just thinking how I would LOVE an analog retreat AND a genetics test! Wonder what’s in these genes of mine. Bonus points if it comes with mind control. Someone ELSE do the thinking for me for once.
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@kipsie That is a very curious and odd point…
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Technically, isn’t it on the actor to read what it is that they are signing. It’s notike this is lawyer speak. It pretty much jumps out at you.
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Technically, isn’t it on the actor to read what it is that they are signing. It’s notike this is lawyer speak. It pretty much jumps out at you.
Most actors would have their agent or manager read any and all documents like this.
But since Tension LLC seems to target young new actors, I would hedge a bet nearly all of them don’t have agents or managers. This might be a big reason why they want young new performers. Easier to control and don’t have to worry about an agent getting in the way.
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If we were to go with this whole Horace seeing a vessel theory, wouldn’t one want to do re-occurring STI testing?
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@bruinbown If they weren’t allowed to have sex without permission, wouldn’t they still need to have frequent STI checks just to make sure they were following the rules?
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@bruinbown @mamatato Or to make sure that nothing’s been incubating in the time between tests? Some things really take their time when it comes to the rearing of ugly heads…
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@kipsie Exactly. I would expect more monitoring…
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@thebuz Agree completely with what you said, especially if the performers are not used to analyzing and reading contracts on their own. I’ve suffered my share of getting shafted by shitty contracts because of inexperience on my part. Throw a 17 page contract at an inexperienced person and they would get overwhelmed pretty quickly.
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@kipsie @mamatato
Depends on a lot of factors. Whoever is running this seems to feel they are all powerful. Is the 48 hour trek to wherever really about being at the retreat, or is it about TPTB actually going to their residences, setting up hidden cameras and audio devices, maybe putting spy software on their phones and other electronic devices, and making it so they can monitor them 24/7?
Just a though. They know where they will be for 48 hours, no danger of getting caught.
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I’d sign my life away to be in a project like tension. I don’t blame them for jumping in despite all the stipulations. But there’s always one bad apple in the bunch. .can’t please everyone. Hostess in black is just trying to make TPTB look bad. It’s going to take more than this to change my mind about them that’s for sure.
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Image 1 transcribed – apart from the retreat, it seems like a pretty reasonable agreement for a production that revolves around secrets and reveals like this that needs to protect itself.
The performer shall render such services as are customarily performed by a theatrical industry, m … but not limited to the following: the performer will assume the artistic responsibility for the charact[er they are being hired to] embody. During which time they will have to turn over complete access to all social [media accounts]. Performers will not be allowed to use any public social media account without prior approval from the Production Company, or their legal council. The performer will be responsible for [making himself/]herself available for all requested tasks during the run of the show. The Performer shalll to the best of his/her ability and with the Company’s instructions carry out his/her tasks in such a manner that the most optimal utilization of the available resources is achieved, even if said tasks might compromise personal beliefs and morals. All making of, behind the scenes, trailers, promos, social media and “official” websites concerning the Picture or Experience shall be approved exclusively by the Company and its [Directors.] The performer has no approval over image or likeness. The Performer is not allowed, without the prior consent of the Company, to make decisions that materially deviate from the approved screenplay (as defined in the previous sentence) or increase the production costs of the Experience. Once Performer is hired, they must make themselves available for a mandartory 48 hour retreat that will transpire outside of Los Angeles. Performers agree to leave their cellphone, computer, and any other electronic device at their place of residence of the entirety of the 48 hours. It is also acknowledged that the Performer will never reference or talk publicly of events that transpired.
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In the first part of the Sex and Nudity section it states that there is a “Exhibit A” attachment that describes “designated sexual acts”. Curious.
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@pandace88 or some of us are, at least.
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@mkarrett @mike @mamatato @nothenrygale @kasch looks like you guys are special cases…
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@pandace88 This is confirming what I’ve been suspicious of since the book party. I received way more hugs and next-day Facebook friend requests from actors than I deserved…
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Oh fuck. They have files on us that they give performers.
I see @mkarrett, @mike, @mamatato, @nothenrygale, @kasch mentioned.
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@buz But even still. Can ignorance be a legal exemption. I can only think of this in a scenario that I have been in. I mean, If i take a loan out on a house, and I’m young and excited and just want to move in. Can I not pay and claim ignorance with out repercussion if I never made the connection that on top of the mortgage comes PMI insurance, escrow payments, association fee’s ect ect ect. No the bank doesn’t care. You signed your paperwork and if you cant pay for the house you go into foreclosure, ignorance or not. And don’t even think to try to get a decent home loan again for awhile because your credit is fubared.
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Why in the living fuck am I mentioned as a special case?
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Tasked with 10-15 participants…
That means that each performer gets us. So… that would explain why some people are always the eyes of certain characters but not others.
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A part that I find unusual – These are leaks that The Real Powers That Be don’t want getting out, yes? And yet here they are and here they remain.
Also, this is an info dump from this disgruntled actor… why are the pictures of the pages all done at hard to read angles instead of photocopied or at least taken directly?
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So does that mean @joycecarlberg has her 10-15 and @maddyxxx has his 10-15?
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@thegilded And certain parts have been blurred, deliberately making them harder to read (if at all).
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@thegilded that’s what I’m sayin!
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@bruinbown if that is the case then that would mean @111error would also have his 10-15 right? And that @joycecarlberg just exchanged @kevin file to Morgan lol…
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@thegilded The blur and the tilt read as SUS.
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@shankfx22 I’d argue @111error is NOT a performer. We’ve spoken at length about certain topics and I would bet money he has never signed a contract like this.
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Let’s not forget that this is an actress still. People can retain the flair for theatrics even when in the process of leaking classified info.
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page 2 transcribed below:
3 Nudity and Sex Acts
It is understood between the parties that, with respect to services to be rendered by Playe … consideration set forth in the Agreement, such services shall require Player to appear nude … semi-nude, and/or perform sexual act(s), as the case may be, in the Picture, or Experience. T … general description of the extent of such nudity, and the type of physical contact required in s … designated sexual acts, is attached as “Exhibit A”.3B PLAYER’S CONSENT: Player agrees and consents to render the services set forth abov[e] and hereby affirms that Player agrees to appear nude and/or semi-nude and to perform su[ch] sexual act(s). All performers must undergo genetic testing, as well as submit to an STD panel.
3C OWNERSHIP OF THE PERFORMANCE: Pursuant to terms and conditions of the Agreement, Production Company own all results and proceeds of Player’s services rendered pursuant to the Agreement and has the exclusive right to use, license, and exploit the Picture, and performer throughout the world and in perpetuity in any and all media whether now or hereafter devised.
[…s]ure of Confidential Information
… agrees not to use or disclose any Confidential Information … [o]btained by it from the other party for any reason including … purpose except to carry out discussions concerning, and … ationship. Except as set forth in this Agreement, neither … by law or court order, disclose any Confidential … third parties or to employees, agents or … ceiving Confidential Information, except … [s]ors who are required to have the … scions in connection with and regardin[g] … eiving Party may disclose … if required by law or c … eceiving Party gi[v] … meant to [p] … [p]ri -
@rizzzoooooo Okay so then he is NOT the one they mentioned to be a participant who signed the actor NDA and contract
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@brianamatopoeia
25% porn contract, 50% standard Hollywood contract, 25% sperm/egg donation contractTotally legal.
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@nothenrygale Following from that, is it possible that HiB is the member of the community HiB themselves referenced?
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@nothenrygale I read this as the five of you NOT being assigned to a specific player until something specific happens in “Exhibit C.”
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Agreeing with @wanda102 on this one.
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I concur with @wanda102 on that. I think those five are seperate for now.
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@bruinbown that’s bananas! I am very naive.
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I honestly am having a hard time reading the contract bits that have been posted due to blur. So I will be waiting for the transcriptions…
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page 3 transcribed:
…construed as a representation [or … that the Receiving party …] develop or have developed for … are similar or compete with the pr … contemplated by or embodied in the Confi[dential Information] … Receiving party does not violate any of the obligations [under … agreement] … connection with such development. All Performers must attend … System Events prior to the “End Activation”.
Upon signature of this agreement and the attached NDA, a series of files will be hand [delivered to your] residence that will be your “subjects” to study. Please note these files contain highly [sensitive information] and must be returned within one business day of receiving them. Each Performer will be tasked [with 10-]15 Participants (as defined in “Exhibit D”). M. Kramer, M. Fontaine, S. Musnicky, B. Ruwe, A. Kasch will be separated from the remaining names until “Exhibit C” is enacted. It is acknowledged that the participants may switch Performers during the course of the activation. It is the requirement of the Performer to pass off any essential information. No Performer may switch off any “Exhibit D” Pa … without written approval from TENSION LLC Legal Counsel.
5. Non-Solicitation
During the term of the Relationship act party agrees to refrain from any attempt to employ, solicit, take away or induce any employee, officer or agent of the other to leave his or her employment. Notwithstanding the foregoing, each party is free to continue pre-existing relationships, so long as such relationships do not involve the subject matter of this Relationship or the … use of Confidential Information of the other party. -
@wanda102 So multiple plants tasked with engaging in 10-15 participants? Convince them the color of your shirt isnt the color of your shirt?
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@shankfx22 I’d argue @111error is NOT a performer. We’ve spoken at length about certain topics and I would bet money he has never signed a contract like this.
@rizzzoooooo Totally agree with you in principle on this. BUT if the role somebody was playing was “participant turned resistance leader,” then conversations designed to sell that role would totally be in play. And said person would likely deny signing any paperwork as part of the NDA itself.Not accusing anybody of anything at this point, however. Just saying that we don’t know, and that the usual “That’s exactly what a plant would say!” rules probably apply with these performers, whomever they may be.
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@wanda102 You’re right, I misread that. I saw my name and just went “WTF”. So yeah, sounds like maybe the five of us are still up in the air in terms of who is our assigned person?
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@lukasrl this is what any actor who signs up to work for Lust allegedly will sign. They are tasked with learning about and focusing on up to 15 participants, some of whom may shift between actors if necessary. Five people have not been assigned to a specific actor at this time and will not be until “Exhibit C” is enacted.
It is also safe to assume that if this is a true contract that one of our community members is under this set of rules and is gathering information and studying a set group of 15 or so of us at this time.
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So essentially we’re all assigned to certain performers except the ones listed. They come into play whenever Exhibit C is enacted.
That the gist of this?
EDIT: Shit @wanda102 already summed it up before me.
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@addisonborn Thank you for doing that!!!
@rizzzoooooo @bcbishop I agree it could go either way. Rizzo has a point, but Bryan brings up an interesting theory that could apply if that was in fact how it all went down. We may never know, or perhaps that will be part of the leak -
Now the question is what is Exhibit C?
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Yes, you’re completely right @bcbishop, the fourth wall is dust and anything can be possible. I guess it’s just a gut thing.
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— Hostess In Black (@Hostessinblack) August 7, 2017
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SUS AS FUCK
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I don’t buy that shit for a second.
She was about to tell us about Tower 7 and how jet fuel cannot melt steel beams!
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Yup. “Everything is fine.”
P.S. OSDM cleaners ain’t shit.
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@kipsie They sure ain’t subtle…
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@genghistwan hahaha yesss! ?
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And the Twitter account is now gone. HiB, we hardly knew ye.
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A friendly word of advice to @111error and the Resistance: If you have a smoking gun, might not be wise to tweet jigsaw pieces a little at a time. Just produce the damn gun.
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So HiB got the respose she was looking for and agreed to do a quick clean up. “Just kidding, everything is fine” . What was it that she wanted and got? Or how big was the threat? Since originally she wasn’t scared of threats and now her mind has quickly changed…
How could any of that be lies..I don’t think she took the time to write up a fake contract to show us!
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Here are all of the tweets sent from Hostess in Black:
Just adding some text so it doesn’t take over the whole activity feed.
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Interesting thought I just had. Maybe Noah’s sudden change of heart with me, bringing me back to The System event this weekend, is due to this “Exhibit C” mentioned in the leaked document? Is it possible that “exhibit” is taking place at The System, and as such I HAVE to be there? Noah got angry with me when I refused to perform his task and booted me. Possibly someone above him reminded Noah that I needed to be there, and with @timsmyname’s refusal, it opened an opportunity for him to get me to come back?
There’s also the possibility Exhibit C has already happened. We don’t know when this contract was given to the actors. This may be “old info” and the five of us have already been paired with someone to keep tabs on us.
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@cass not dead until we see a slit throat, and even then, who knows.. HiB is “compromised” maybe?
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@nothenrygale we are probably going to be earning the drinks @rizzzoooooo offered to get us the day of the seminar.
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@kasch Thank you for the heads up, but don’t worry, we’re more prepared than a lone tweeter breaking an NDA.
The grammar of her latest post..
Might as well have wrote “LIFE SUCKS”..
A friendly word of advice though; “Written”.
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My hot take on the Members being listed is not because of special treatment per say but that they don’t know how to assign those members yet.
Regardless though they will still be utalized whenever “Exhibit C” is enacted as whatever that is probably affects everyone.
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I’m glad for HiB giving us a glimpse at how deep the rabbit hole goes, how intriguing, if not completely necessary. As for her being shut down? I suppose it comes down to protecting the integrity of our Experience. That was necessary.
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@wanda102 That sounds awful close to one of those “the end justifies the means” kinda statements. How far are you willing to allow something to go in the name of “protecting the integrity of our Experience”? Is there a line you wouldn’t want to see crossed?
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@mkarrett If the cheese burns again, I’m forming my own BOS. Brotherhood of Swiss.
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I mean, I’m kinda intrigued by the reveal not really scared… I would’nt see any reason to kill someone for leaking this contract? It wasn’t that bad…I mean remember the Westworld contract where performers were asked to ride each other naked? Maybe just silenced.
I still don’t understand the fingerprints and firearms in Indiana reference though??
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@bruinbown I didn’t see anyone get hurt today, did you?
As for lines being crossed, I suppose we can look at what we saw today. If what Hostess revealed was true…there are no lines.
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@wanda102 What bad things would you tolerate happening to HiB in the name of protecting your experience? I’m not talking about what HiB is claiming, I’m talking about what you’d be willing to see happen to shut them up. Is it ok for harm to come to HiB in the name of protecting your experience? Would it be acceptable to extort, or threaten HiB in the name of protecting your experience? At what point for you, would TPTB be crossing an ethical, or moral line in shutting down an adversary?
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@brianamatopoeia based on multiple direct references to very private information said to many of us last year at Ascension, there’s no possible way that they don’t have files on us.
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@addisonborn I mean, didn’t a lot of you guys GIVE them that info in the questionnaire?
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Well, shit. This is a huge mess, huh?
@brianamatopoeia I’m also trying to wrap my head around that. What about the participants who haven’t received any specific attention at all yet? Although, I guess you can keep tabs on someone without ever talking to them.It’s 1am and I’m so jetlagged in Paris right now and this thread made my damn brain ache. Thanks for all the diligent updates, everyone!
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If the whole point of these experiences are to collect emotional data on the participants, of course there will be case files about each of us. What’s the point of collecting data if it’s never analyzed?
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Two options, which do you think it is:
1. She typed this under massive duress via threats, extortion or torture
2. She’s currently in a trunk somewhere (or in a couple trunks somewhere) and someone else typed this
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@brianamatopoeia based on multiple direct references to very private information said to many of us last year at Ascension, there’s no possible way that they don’t have files on us.
@brianamatopoeia I agree with @addisonborn on this. They have information (files) on participants. Of course, they have more on some than others. But, there have been instances when a participant has had something said to them that they didn’t divulge in a questionnaire. -
@brianamatopoeia – we gave them SOME information on those questionnaires, but depending on who you talk to, they seem to have information on some of us that we *didn’t* give them.
They DO have files on us. It’s what’s in those files and how they got that info that’s up for debate, IMO. I have seen nothing that suggests they have anything on me that I didn’t give them. If that changes I’ll let you know. I think the most damning source of intel has been so-called “out of game conversations” with Tension/Lust related people (actors, creators, etc).
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@mkarrett Ha! More like that’s when you have to pay up.
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@michelle Hi!!!!!!
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She posted on the forums earlier today, but it was deleted.
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@remrelganaps her name on here was the same as her Twitter handle so someone must have checked it?
If some posts were deleted or may be hard to figure out who first found the Twitter account.
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@larry Next time you see her, ask about the retreats.
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