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March 16, 2017 at 9:43 am #1948Maxwell RParticipant
This morning I received a call from an unknown woman. She informed me that she saw me last night at the book release but she couldn’t get to me in the chaos. She sent me an email with this picture and the subject line “H Aolvyf vm Zwljbshy Zbymhjl Nlvtlayf”
Attached to the email was a picture I will attempt to post here as well.
She called back to confirm I received the message and told me “Never Silent.”
*having issues posting picture*
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March 16, 2017 at 9:44 am #1949Maxwell RParticipant
This is in the book but this version is all wonky
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March 16, 2017 at 9:47 am #1951MikeParticipant
Looks like a Caeser Cipher that comes out to
“A Theory of Specular Surface Geometry”
IT’S STARTING!!!!
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March 16, 2017 at 9:55 am #1955MeganParticipant
First search result:
http://ai2-s2-pdfs.s3.amazonaws.com/86bb/4f92d4ce5a8755220ccb365756e69a821959.pdf
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March 16, 2017 at 9:48 am #1952MikeParticipant
Your email subject I mean. Sorry, I got too excited and just posted haha
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March 16, 2017 at 9:50 am #1953MeganParticipant
@moustachemax – how are you trying to post the picture?
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March 16, 2017 at 9:55 am #1956MelissaParticipant
@moustachemax: all else fails just upload to imgur and just post with the link? Just a thought.
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March 16, 2017 at 9:55 am #1957CristenParticipant
Oh this is so neat. Can’t see the photo on this end but I’m very intrigued. Which i suppose is the intention.
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March 16, 2017 at 10:21 am #1961MeganParticipant
I am really curious about that picture now – can’t wait to see it.
The phrase “A Theory of Specular Surface Geometry” on google very clearly points to this one scholarly paper written in 1995. One of its two authors, Shree K. Nayar, is still on faculty at Columbia: http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~nayar/
He also apparently has a TED talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rQBH1TH9pA
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March 16, 2017 at 10:26 am #1963
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March 16, 2017 at 10:32 am #1966
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March 16, 2017 at 10:34 am #1967MikeParticipant
This was one of the first pictures Tension ever put up
And it’s of the doctor that gave the consultations. I knew he looked familiar! It’s been a year since we’ve met him, so I wonder what happened to him to have this demeanor. Maybe he was OSDM the whole time. Maybe he went through Noah’s course over the last year. Who knows. It’s all connected and it’s blowing my mind right now
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March 16, 2017 at 10:35 am #1968LiaParticipant
A man just called me. His voice was very deliberate and calm, nothing like the frazzled angry voice on Noah’s voicemail, so I really have no clue who it was. I did my best to remember what he said but, full disclosure, the call woke me up, so my brain wasn’t able to catch everything.
Man: “Do you know who this is?”
Lia: “I think I do, actually. Is this Noah?”
Man: (chuckles to himself) “No, this is not Noah. Listen very carefully.”
The first step is REFLECTION, which is the most pure.
The Second step is IMITATION, which is _______ *Sorry, I can’t remember what he said here!*
The Final step is EXPERIENCE, which is the most painful.”I waited to see if he had any more to say, not sure how to respond. Even though he wasn’t Noah (And to be honest, he kind of sounded like Darren?) I figured he wouldn’t be open to me asking for any clarification. Then, abruptly:
Man: “Never silent.” (phone clicks)
Not sure if that was a critique, meaning I took too long to respond, or if it’s a command, telling me this is my time to share this information. Maybe a little of both.
- This reply was modified 7 years, 8 months ago by Lia.
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March 16, 2017 at 10:48 am #1979M.Participant
@lilmsfancpants Could the imitation part be related to easiest? I was googling those three together and found this:
“By three methods we may learn wisdom: first by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.” Confucius
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March 16, 2017 at 10:35 am #1969SeanModerator
For future reference, make sure that the link that you’re copying ends in “.jpg” or “.gif” or else it’ll break the link like it did. You have to right click the image itself and copy the link address instead of the imgur link.
Now that I got that out of the way, this is fascinating. Looks like an inverted image of one we’ve seen before (original below). Inverted one has a more noticeable OOA logo but I was rather under the impression that we were going to be seeing a lot less of the OOA in Lust. Unless the logo is more of a symbol of Anoch that the OSDM uses as well, so is something we’ll be seeing more of going forward?
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March 16, 2017 at 10:37 am #1971
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March 16, 2017 at 10:40 am #1972Bryan BishopParticipant
@lilmsfancpants I think you just spoke to the same person that called me in Austin. I was too frazzled at the time to actually confirm whether he was Noah or not, but the first half of your interaction sounds almost exactly the same.
Did he just give you the the three stages of this show? Similar to Indoctrination/Ascension/etc?
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March 16, 2017 at 10:43 am #1973AddisonParticipant
@electrichippo, @rizzzoooooo, and I had a pretty interesting conversation with “Sentinel” last night, I’m not sure if it was IG or OOG now.. He made it a point to tell us that he was not there for The End – the “Sentinel” we saw was someone else. Not sure how much actually matters because everyone else there last night was dead at The End, but maybe that means something?
Michelle told a handful of BOSers before The End that while the “BOS” was actually OSDM, we were the ones that made it real. Then again, it was Michelle so we were probably being played (again). But if this is a new splinter, then B.O.S. 2.0 here we go!!
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March 16, 2017 at 10:43 am #1974MelissaParticipant
No need to apologize, I felt weird kinda taking over but ya even as Sentry I had trouble figuring out embedding stuff. From imgur make sure you get the direct link. From what I can see in the code from your original post you were using the “image link” which is what I did all the damn time.
Once you get the direct link just add that url into the “img” box…
And it should embed.
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March 16, 2017 at 10:45 am #1976LiaParticipant
@mike I could get on board with that as a new catchphrase! Working under that assumption that this was someone who might serve as opposition to Noah, it’s interesting that they contacted me. I was accepted to move forward with The System. You think this kind of call would have been aimed towards someone who was outright rejected by Noah and Sarah in that case. Right?
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March 16, 2017 at 10:47 am #1977SeanModerator
@lilmsfancpants – It may be premature to say that this person isn’t affiliated with Noah. You were accepted, but you don’t know what Noah’s system actually is. Maybe this is one of his affiliates laying out the roadmap.
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March 16, 2017 at 10:48 am #1978MikeParticipant
Oh @lilmsfancpants that’s super interesting. Maybe they know you got accepted and have a mission for you to be a mole and gather intel for them about Noah’s inner workings??
THIS IS SO EXCITING!!!
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March 16, 2017 at 10:49 am #1980
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March 16, 2017 at 10:50 am #1981
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March 16, 2017 at 10:50 am #1982Bryan BishopParticipant
One thing I don’t know if we’ve discussed: the Noah Sinclair site was posted here as spam. If we take that at face value, the Noah Sinclair site becomes the opposing force, outside of The Creator’s control, and trying to grab people that are here for LUST and draw them into… something else.
I was also accepted into The System. Coincidence? @moustachemax which System email did you get?
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March 16, 2017 at 10:51 am #1983
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March 16, 2017 at 10:52 am #1984Winston SmithParticipant
That’s a Caesar Cipher! “H Aolvyf vm Zwljbshy Zbymhjl Nlvtlayf” translates to “A Theory of Specular Surface Geometry”
Use this online decoder with a “Key” of 19 to decode it.
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March 16, 2017 at 10:55 am #1986M.Participant
@lilmsfancpants Hahaha! This totally made my day! I’m always late to figuring things out! I’m glad I could help.
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March 16, 2017 at 10:57 am #1987CristenParticipant
@coryphella Only synonym for easy I can think of with a “p” would be “painless.” I suppose that would fit, though!
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March 16, 2017 at 10:59 am #1989
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March 16, 2017 at 11:00 am #1990Brad RuweParticipant
Holy crap! That’s crazy! I had been wondering if any of Noah’s people (or others involved in Lust) would be there. I asked “mysterious suit guy” if he knew anyone named Noah Sinclair. He just glared at me and didn’t respond. No calls, but put my cell phone on silent juuuuuuust in case.
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March 16, 2017 at 11:11 am #1991BlondieParticipant
@lilmsfancpants @michelle @coryphella Put my synonym hat on – how about permissive?
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March 16, 2017 at 11:16 am #1992Julie R GoldsteinParticipant
Is there any correlation between those getting calls and the response they received from the Sinclairs?
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March 16, 2017 at 11:23 am #1995LiaParticipant
@blondie @coryphella Yeah, I’m pretty sure @michelle hit the nail on the head. No need to stress about P words. Like I said, I had JUST woken up. I glad I even remembered the steps at least! Yay, working together!
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March 16, 2017 at 11:39 am #2000
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March 16, 2017 at 11:27 am #1996LiaParticipant
@julierei Well, I was a yes from Noah. @moustachemax ? @bcbishop ?
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March 16, 2017 at 11:29 am #1998Bryan BishopParticipant
@lilmsfancpants Same.
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March 16, 2017 at 11:35 am #1999MikeParticipant
@lilmsfancpants @bcbishop – you guys might be the Rogue One(s)
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March 16, 2017 at 11:47 am #2003Maxwell RParticipant
I got a No from Noah Sinclair. I’m just finding more stuff in the email. I’m out right now but I will get it all out when I get a chance. More to be decipher!
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March 16, 2017 at 12:09 pm #2006ChrisParticipant
@bcbishop that’s a fantastic point about the spam that speaks to something that was bothering me about last night. We know that the OSDM is the one putting on The Lust Experience from the early photos on Facebook etc. We can then assume that they set up this forum for us. But so far, have we actually interacted with anyone who represents this side? We have Michelle, we have Noah and Sarah, we have the bald man identified as the doctor from the early days of Tension. All people who represent the rebellion, the opposition to the establishment based on their words and actions both in person and on this forum. Is this behavior a front? Are some of them actually with OSDM? Is Michelle behind the Lust Experience, or is she trying to expose it? Are Michelle and the bald doctor, who didn’t actually directly interact last night, working together? And if so, who is OSDM? When are we going to see who all these people are actually fighting against?
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March 16, 2017 at 1:02 pm #2013Lukas LParticipant
“Never Silent” – I like that. I do hope it would be something like if you hesitated to long they say “Never Silent” and communications end.
Its like, snap snap snap keep the information rolling. Live in the moment and dont waste a second. But then again from a data collection standpoint. If you are forced to keep a quick dialogue it makes it much harder to lie. Hence the data they are mining is more accurate.
Even though they are not asking a question its almost like the Rapid Fire interrogation technique.
When people lie, they generally need more time to think about their answers and check that these are consistent with past responses. Rapid fire questions give them little time for this and they are thus more likely to let things slip or give inconsistent replies.
When a person is prevented from completing an answer, their need for completion is affected, thus increasing their stress levels.
Under high levels of stress, people are likely to turn to satisficing, where their focus changed from giving the best answer to reducing the stress. Rapid fire questions increase stress through cognitive loading and emotional pressure.
But instead of moving on to the next question, they know we want to talk to them. The punishment isnt a barrage of questions, instead if you don’t respond they hang up.
I could be totally off but I do think if the above is true its a pretty awesome idea.
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March 16, 2017 at 3:11 pm #2045Michael RizzoParticipant
Wow I’m just barely catching up but.. Holy shit it’s heating up fast!
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March 16, 2017 at 3:13 pm #2046SeanModerator
@rizzzoooooo – I bet that’s what Darren said.
You know, before the OSDM burned him alive.
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March 16, 2017 at 3:17 pm #2048AnonymousInactive
And now I know how Darren B. felt
Now I know how Darren B. felt
As the flames rose to his beglassed nose
And his hair gel started to melt(I blame you for putting ‘Bigmouth Strikes Again’ firmly into my head.)
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March 16, 2017 at 3:15 pm #2047Michael RizzoParticipant
Oh.
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March 16, 2017 at 3:27 pm #2052CandaceParticipant
@kipsie I just sang your post instead of reading it lol
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March 16, 2017 at 3:36 pm #2053BlondieParticipant
@pandace88 Glad I’m not the only one who did that ?❤ Bravo @kipsie!
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March 16, 2017 at 6:21 pm #2066MarandaParticipant
re: @bcbishop and @stendahl bringing up that Noah’s site was actually brought to our attention via spam: I had the same thoughts, and with Darren’s uneasiness over the two calls Bryan received I’m starting to think that the Lust Experience we think we’re getting isn’t the Lust Experience that we were intended to get. However, how were we led to Noah in the first place? Spam on the forums, but that spam was telegraphed with a message to @kipsie in the source code. Whoever Noah is and whatever group he’s with, they’ve got someone on the inside, on Darren’s side, and that’s worrying.
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March 16, 2017 at 6:26 pm #2067Bryan BishopParticipant
@izryn That’s a really, really good point. And who told kipsie about the source code drop?
I wonder if they’ll chime in on this discussion at any point, but for now, we must be cautious.
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March 16, 2017 at 6:31 pm #2068AnonymousInactive
The Lust Experience hijacked. Now that’s trippy.
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March 16, 2017 at 11:38 pm #2086AnonymousInactive
Sooo much happening! This is thrilling. @lilmsfancpants I think you brought up something really interesting that the man calling you sounded like Darren himself. What if now Darren is more a part of the narrative? He got slapped by Michelle correct? Granted from what I’ve heard/read about her that doesn’t seem too out of the ordinary for her but perhaps this is significant? Almost like a challenge to a duel? And now he wants to make sure we are “Never Silent”?
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March 16, 2017 at 11:45 pm #2087MarandaParticipant
@clairebuch I think Darren (and by extension, Clint and perhaps Gordon) have been a part of the narrative ever since it was revealed that they were The Creators. Some folks reported seeing them talk to the OSDM members showing their time in Ascension, and there was also a Tension periscope that suggested that an interview they gave was actually scripted. How things develop from here, though, we don’t know.
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March 16, 2017 at 11:50 pm #2088AnonymousInactive
@izryn A very good point! I’m still very new to most of this sooo I’m still kinda fuzzy on the full back story. ?
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March 17, 2017 at 2:41 am #2091MarandaParticipant
@clairebuch No worries! You’ll pick it up as we go, or you could ask any of the Tension alum about whatever you want more details on. I also missed a lot of the action early on, so I’m in a similar boat.
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March 18, 2017 at 9:19 pm #2346AntigonosParticipant
Just a suggestion…if you don’t have one, there’s a handy little app for most smartphones called Call Recorder…totally free and does exactly what it says. This way you don’t have to worry about trying to remember the entire conversation later. Just a thought!
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March 18, 2017 at 9:28 pm #2347SeanModerator
@jrjeff1990 – Be careful with those. California is a two party consent state, so it’s technically illegal for someone to record calls without getting permission from both sides.
I have a whole lot of doubt that anyone’s gonna get sued or prosecuted in anything related to Lust, but unfortunately can’t use it without any restrictions
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