This topic has 67 replies, 24 voices, and was last updated 7 years, 7 months ago by Chris.
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March 27, 2017 at 12:31 pm #3937Bryan BishopParticipant
Some of you puppy lovers may not be surprised, but I received an email this morning from Clint Sears.
Clint claims he’s okay, and based upon some of the things mentioned in the email I do believe it’s the real Clint Sears that wrote this, versus a shadow account. As such, I’m reposting the email and the image he sent me in full below, so everyone can read and see for themselves.
I have a ton of thoughts on this, and am reluctant to say much more right now because we don’t know who is watching, reading, or listening. But please take the time to look at both the email and the image.
But for the record? I don’t eat pancakes.
Never silent, y’all. Email as follows:
Subject: Good morning!
Hey man, sorry I have been MIA, I guess the cat is out of the bag now though so I thought I’d drop a line to let you know everything is fine.
In fact, I was just going through my pics of SXSW and got cheered up… 🙂 Remember when the waitress did this to your pancakes? Haha, I’ll never forget how you said, “I wonder if she did anything else to them?” and then you had that upset stomach all day? I’m still not sure that she didn’t! Anyways, I’m super busy and I promise that I can’t really talk these days but everything’s great on my side and I hope it is on yours too.
Take care!
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March 27, 2017 at 12:35 pm #3939Brad RuweParticipant
Clint is talking about events that never actually happened? SUS.
THE PANCAKES ARE A LIE.
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March 27, 2017 at 12:36 pm #3940Alejandra AcostaParticipant
A puppy and now pancakes? I am confused, if you don’t eat pancakes does that mean that the ones in the pic were not yours?
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March 27, 2017 at 12:36 pm #3941ChrisParticipant
This all feels very much like Clint and Darren are under duress. As though rather than there being separate entities writing for the Shadow accounts, they are being forced to do it with someone over their shoulder. If you’re being held hostage and monitored but able to get communications out, you would try to hide little clues in order to let the reader know something is wrong without the person listening catching on. The pancakes, the unusual initials choice.. They want people to notice these discrepancies. I think it’s a cry for help.
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March 27, 2017 at 12:44 pm #3946CandaceParticipant
so I thought I’d drop a line to let you know everything is fine.
@macbethinabathtub I’m on board with that theory exactly!- This reply was modified 7 years, 7 months ago by Candace.
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March 27, 2017 at 12:44 pm #3947SeanModerator
What an interesting image.
Very, very… Interesting
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March 27, 2017 at 12:46 pm #3950
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March 27, 2017 at 12:46 pm #3951Kimberly StewartParticipant
There’s a hidden message in that image…
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March 27, 2017 at 12:48 pm #3953Kimberly StewartParticipant
In addition to the warning to Bryan it says it was taken in Austin TX on March 13, 2017 at 11:08am.
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March 27, 2017 at 12:50 pm #3955MeganParticipant
Where is the warning??
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March 27, 2017 at 12:51 pm #3956
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March 27, 2017 at 12:52 pm #3959CandaceParticipant
Oh shit! Good catch!
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March 27, 2017 at 12:53 pm #3960Mustafa SaidParticipant
That message scares me….
Who the hell is in fucking control this time?
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March 27, 2017 at 12:56 pm #3961MeganParticipant
Yup – got it under file info – thanks!
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March 27, 2017 at 12:56 pm #3962
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March 27, 2017 at 12:57 pm #3963SeanModerator
@pandace88 – you’ll need something that can view EXIF data. If you’re on your phone you’ll need to download the image, go to an online EXIF viewer, then upload it
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March 27, 2017 at 12:58 pm #3964MeganParticipant
Other info??
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March 27, 2017 at 8:42 pm #4074chamberlainjoshua.comParticipant
If you have an iPhone the app ViewExif is brilliant. If you don’t have an iPhone, why don’t you?
ViewExif by Skyjos Co., Ltd.
https://appsto.re/us/Vnhw4.i
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March 27, 2017 at 12:59 pm #3965MeganParticipant
(Uh…hopefully that doesn’t cause the thread to be deleted…)
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March 27, 2017 at 12:59 pm #3966Meghan MayhemParticipant
If we learned anything from the Book Release Party, it’s that most of us don’t know when to walk to fuck away.
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March 27, 2017 at 12:59 pm #3967MeganParticipant
Most of us, when told to, don’t WANT to…
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March 27, 2017 at 1:00 pm #3968NosnevetsParticipant
@pandace88 Or you can download the picture and open it up in text/edit. It’s not fully steganographized so it shows up even in the info when you just right click.
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March 27, 2017 at 1:04 pm #3969
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March 27, 2017 at 1:07 pm #3970
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March 27, 2017 at 1:08 pm #3971Bryan BishopParticipant
Update: I was going through the second email Clint sent (where he said he wanted to make sure everyone saw the above), and noticed several hyperlinks.
One was to an article warning people against sharing photos on social media when they’re out of town because it makes them easier targets. (I’m in Vegas for a work trip and posted to that effect yesterday.)
Another was a link to an image of the words “Never Silent.”
The last was the cover of the Booker T album “Sound the Alarm.”
I am being absolutely serious when I say I’m wondering if this isn’t a warning to be heeded. They gave us the opt-out email the other day for a reason.
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March 27, 2017 at 1:10 pm #3972MeganParticipant
But sharing photos on social media while in town is totally safe?
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March 27, 2017 at 1:10 pm #3973
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March 27, 2017 at 1:11 pm #3974MarandaParticipant
Why would Clint send a message like that? Maybe he’s trying to protect us from whoever is breathing over his and Darren’s shoulders?
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March 27, 2017 at 1:11 pm #3975Kimberly StewartParticipant
@pandace88 The message said not to talk about the message. True story!
I don’t want to betray the request so I’ll PM it to you.
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March 27, 2017 at 1:11 pm #3976
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March 27, 2017 at 1:13 pm #3977
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March 27, 2017 at 1:15 pm #3978KevinParticipant
Going with what @electrichippo said and PMing for those interested.
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March 27, 2017 at 1:15 pm #3979
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March 27, 2017 at 1:17 pm #3980KevinParticipant
@coryphella Yeah, same message for the most part. @bcbishop’s message with weird capitalization was a hint at what we needed to do with it.
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March 27, 2017 at 1:20 pm #3981
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March 27, 2017 at 1:22 pm #3982MeganParticipant
I think that was Bryan’s fear.
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March 27, 2017 at 1:25 pm #3983
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March 27, 2017 at 1:27 pm #3984Brad RuweParticipant
Shit shit shit, this is what we get for not listening to the puppy.
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March 27, 2017 at 1:30 pm #3985MeganParticipant
In case it’s helpful – this is from a Mac user:
Photoshop instructions:
1. Download image.
2. Open image with Photoshop.
3. Go to File > File info…
4. You’ll see the message on the basic tab.Preview instructions:
1. Download image.
2. Open image with Preview.
3. Go to Tools > Show Inspector (or hit cmd-I)
4. Click on the tab with the “i” in a circle.
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March 27, 2017 at 1:39 pm #3989Bryan BishopParticipant
Sorry for the delayed response, everyone. At a trade show today so typing much of this on the run. 🙂
@blondie Email came in at 9am sharp. Basically four minutes off from the Shadow clint-sears post here on the forums.
@thegilded Links are as follows:Don’t share on social when media when you’re away from home
Never Silent (this was linked three different times, but always to the same image. I suspect the message here is that we should always be sharing information publicly, no matter the consequences.)
@electrichippo Thank you for your discretion in sharing the original message.To clarify since others have been asking, Yes, the puppy (although super cute on its own, c’mon) was a first attempt to pass along the information while maintaining the discretion that Clint did. The message was essentially the same. After that forum post went up Clint emailed again (he referenced the puppy in the many-linked follow-up email), because it seemed the message wasn’t getting out fast enough, and pushed for it to be shared in full.
That’s probably on me for not being more explicit in the first place, but my only motivation was to protect Clint. I’ve seen firsthand how rattled and paranoid Darren is by whatever’s going on. The realization that Clint may be in a similar place is more than distressing.
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March 27, 2017 at 1:44 pm #3990
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March 27, 2017 at 1:46 pm #3992
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March 27, 2017 at 1:46 pm #3993Kimberly StewartParticipant
Thank you for sharing, Bryan.
For what it’s worth, here is the source of the “Never Silent” image: Never Silent LINK
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March 27, 2017 at 1:47 pm #3995ChrisParticipant
Thank you very much, @bcbishop.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-25/never-silent-never-violent-toowoomba-offers-helping-hand/6974044
Interesting continuation of that familiar quote… Anyone think this as any bearing on what’s happening? -
March 27, 2017 at 1:50 pm #3997Brian EParticipant
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March 27, 2017 at 1:54 pm #3999BlondieParticipant
My concern with this train of thought is that people are going to be hesitant about sharing information and that is the worst thing that can happen. The rules have always been: share unless you are explicitly told not to. Withholding information can be just as dangerous/detrimental, not to mention frustrating when it is revealed that something that was potentially time sensitive.
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March 27, 2017 at 1:58 pm #4000Bryan BishopParticipant
Agreed, @blondie. I tried to share while still remaining “in game” with regard to the threats posed to the Creators, but we can’t get much stronger guidance than one of them specifically telling us to spread the word in an email that also reiterates the “Never Silent” phrase multiple times. Seems pretty clear that should be our credo moving forward.
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March 27, 2017 at 2:02 pm #4001
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March 27, 2017 at 2:09 pm #4002KevinParticipant
Probably worth noting for those who’d forgotten, (I definitely did and the character guide on the subreddit helped me remember) several phone calls people received ended with the phrase, “Never silent.”
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March 27, 2017 at 2:10 pm #4003M.Participant
@bcbishop But you did pass on the information. You just did it in a way that was awesome and required effort. Then, you were given a nudge because there were those who didn’t get it. I completely understand why you would embed the message and not put it out there completely. These boards are being watched and we know DLB and Clint are too.
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March 27, 2017 at 2:11 pm #4004Lukas LParticipant
But should we be using the phrase “Never Silent” if we dont know who or what is associated with that phrase.
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March 27, 2017 at 2:17 pm #4008
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March 27, 2017 at 2:23 pm #4010KevinParticipant
According to the character guide, the phrase first popped up on 3/16 in two phone calls referenced in these two posts:
Here
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hereSo it doesn’t seem like we know, at this point, who started using the phrase. We do know Clint(?) appears to be using it now though.
- This reply was modified 7 years, 7 months ago by Kevin.
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March 27, 2017 at 2:39 pm #4013LiaParticipant
Until Clint today, we’ve had NO IDEA who this phrase has been coming from. Certainly sounds like something the OSDM wuold say though.
The first Never Silent call was from an unidentified woman. My Never Silent call was from a unidentified man who “was not Noah.” I thought it was Darren at the time. In retrospect (and TRUST ME I’ve lost some sleep over this topic) maybe it was Noah being super snarky? Like a “No… it’s not Noah… it’s Santa Claus” kind of a thing. But then when I was outside of the bar, he willingly identified himself over the phone. So who knows.
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March 27, 2017 at 7:12 pm #4067
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March 27, 2017 at 9:07 pm #4076SeanModerator
For my brothers and sisters in the Android master race.
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March 27, 2017 at 9:11 pm #4077chamberlainjoshua.comParticipant
Hahahaha well played sir, well played.
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March 27, 2017 at 9:17 pm #4078SeanModerator
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March 27, 2017 at 9:33 pm #4080chamberlainjoshua.comParticipant
A GD GOT reference?! I have found my home….
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March 27, 2017 at 11:39 pm #4094SageParticipant
Okay, so some of this is pretty clear, Clint and DLB are in trouble. Clint is pretending that everything is ok, but sent a secret warning in the pancake photo specifically to Bryan (who was a blackmail target by Noah Sinclair). Clint and DLB are both rattled by Noah Sinclair.
Never Silent and “Sound the Alarm” seem like distress signals/get the word out signals.
What I don’t really get is the article on not posting to social media while on vacation? It seems like it’s about posting vacation photos (giving away your whereabouts like Austin…Biloxi…Panama City…), and then having someone break in and rob your house while you’re away. Did someone rob their houses while they were away?? And now they have “dirt” on them? Not sure…this is going in a lot of different directions!
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March 27, 2017 at 11:46 pm #4095Bryan BishopParticipant
@sfire8 I took the social media post as a warning to me, specifically.
Noah knows my wife’s name, and mentioned her specifically when he tried to blackmail me. I also gave him my address when I signed up for The System.
Posting travel plans on social media would let him — or whomever he works for — know when she’s home without me.
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March 27, 2017 at 11:49 pm #4096
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March 28, 2017 at 1:26 pm #4135AnonymousInactive
@bcbishop In your Periscope you mentioned that Darren said they had pictures of him in Panama City. Was this just a statement indicating there was proof he was there? I ask in light of the recent messages in photos and photos potentially being used as blackmail.
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March 28, 2017 at 1:50 pm #4137Bryan BishopParticipant
@ziegenbart Darren made a point of saying the pictures were “nothing bad”, which seemed to indicate that they weren’t blackmail. It was more a message that was sent to him: he was being watched. (I believe I mentioned this earlier in the initial write-up, but he said he’d received an email from one of their accounts that told him to go the motel. When he was there, somebody walked up to his SUV and showed him the picture.)
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March 28, 2017 at 1:54 pm #4138chamberlainjoshua.comParticipant
I’m posting here only to unsubscribe from this thread. Guess that’s the only way?
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March 28, 2017 at 8:42 pm #4174Nicole MaeParticipant
I just got an email from Noah. My first. Has anyone else heard from him today?
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March 28, 2017 at 8:53 pm #4175ChrisParticipant
That’s great, @maenicole! What was his answer, how do he and Sarah judge your worth?
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