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April 24, 2017 at 5:20 pm #10725Andrew KaschParticipant
As many of you know, I have an imposter out there who has been fucking things up for me. He/she used my alias and has been sending explicit e-mails to Stacey Erikson at iConfidant.
I have been on the phone with iConfidant’s IT people today and Stacey graciously forwarded me some of the e-mails my imposter sent. And it was done under my e-mail address:
Andrew,
> Last night you sent a total of 18 separate emails. I want you to know that I deleted them without opening. Please, this is bordering on harassment. Any more correspondence like last night and I will report you.
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> Stacey>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Andrew Kasch wrote:
>> Fuck this. You and your company are a joke.
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>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 PM, Stacey Erikson <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Andrew,
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>> We are understaffed and overwhelmed currently, sorry if it has taken me a moment to respond. I am sorry I do not have a number I feel comfortable giving out. However, feel free to email me I will do my very best to respond in a timely manner.
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>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Andrew Kasch wrote:
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>>> Hey Stacey,
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>>> Are you not getting my emails?
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>>> Best,
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>>> Andrew
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>>>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 7:04 AM, Andrew Kasch wrote:
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>>>> Happy Easter, Stacey, Is there a number I can call you at?
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>>>> Best,
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>>>> Andrew
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>>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Stacey Erikson <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>> Regardless if this was a joke, or not, the pictures attached were in poor taste, and felt threatening. Such as the attached below: <MaddyxxxLogo.jpg>
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>>>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Andrew Kasch wrote:
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>>>>> Hi Stacey,
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>>>>> Sorry about those other emails, that was my coworker trying to be funny using my account!
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>>>>> Andrew
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>>>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Andrew Kasch wrote:
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>>>>> You are pathetic.
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>>>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Stacey Erikson <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>> Andrew, you were removed yesterday as we discussed. No one from this office called you.
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>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Andrew Kasch wrote:
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>>>>>> Stacey/Kristen et al,
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>>>>>> I asked to be removed from this experience. I just received a phone call from iConfidant. Please, again, I would like to be removed.
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>>>>>> Andrew
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>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Stacey Erikson <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>>> Oh, sorry Andrew, I am sure we acquired it through Facebook, we do a standard file on all new applicants applying for the program. Nothing to worry about!
>>>>>> Best,
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>>>>>> SE
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>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Andrew Kasch wrote:
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>>>>>> I never told you my wife’s name.
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>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Stacey Erikson <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
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>>>>>> Sad to hear you no longer want to be involved, but we understand there are only so many hours in the day.
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>>>>>> We will remove you from all future mailings. Give Annette and the kiddos our best.
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>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> SE
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>>>>>> > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Andrew Kasch wrote:
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>>>>>> > Stacey it was good talking on the phone earlier, but I am not sold on either you or the services you offer.
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>>>>>> > I will be very honest with you… With my day job and now two kids I just don’t know if I have time to play these games…
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>>>>>> >Please remove me from all future correspondence .
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>>>>>> > I do wish you and this experience luck!
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>>>>>> > AndrewStacey will not send me the other e-mails until her IT department learns more.
BUT… notice the name of the file that I supposedly sent to her?
MaddyxxxLogo.jpg
NOAH SINCLAIR’S — USER NAME!!!What the fuck, Noah? You hacked into my e-mail? Is this part of your “SYSTEM?”
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April 24, 2017 at 5:22 pm #10727AnonymousInactive
Well there’s the first connection of iConfidant to The System.
Kasch is there anyway the Sinclairs could have got access to your email account?
Also slightly suspicious about the whole “Wife’s name” business.
This person actually seems to be looking out for you as the messages are not that bad. Then again she did say this imposter sent 18 harassing emails that she just deleted.
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April 24, 2017 at 5:24 pm #10728AnonymousInactive
Stacey needs to come through with the header information on those emails. Without the mx server logs, anyone could say that someone sent any email they wanted from any account.
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April 24, 2017 at 5:24 pm #10729Brad RuweParticipant
I wonder if Shadow Kasch sent Stacey a dick version of their logo that Shadow Me made.
Here’s hoping this gets cleared up soon! Def not cool someone is impersonating you!
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April 24, 2017 at 5:26 pm #10731AnonymousInactive
Oh shit. No indication of where the emails were sent from?
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April 24, 2017 at 5:28 pm #10732
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April 24, 2017 at 5:28 pm #10733Andrew KaschParticipant
I can confirm that it was MY e-mail address that was used. I erased them for the purposes of this forum so my e-mail isn’t out there publicly. The subject line of Stacey’s e-mail was:
Fwd: Kasch correspondence, email chain 1 of 3 (Start date April 12, 2017) Case: KL304-1 (6)The thing that weirds me out is that this other me knows about my life very well. He actually starts off sounding like a more responsible version of myself. And he knows Stacey and I spoke on the phone. Strange.
He got it wrong in one area: Stacey referenced my wife’s name in her first phone call to me.The jpg definitely points to Noah or someone else in the Sinclair camp. I’ve asked Stacey to send me the graphic and am waiting for her response.
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April 24, 2017 at 5:29 pm #10734Meghan MayhemParticipant
Heehee.
That was my first assumption as soon as someone here suggested you had a “foul-mouthed guardian angel”. Who else would be such a thing but dear ol’ Noah ;D
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April 24, 2017 at 5:31 pm #10736AnonymousInactive
I’d email Noah Sinclair and ask him what the fuck he’s doing.
Also… It may not be the fact that he is specifically targeting @kasch. It could simply be that he just happened to have Kasch’s email password and decided to start fucking up iConfidant… for one reason or another.
OORRRRR…
This is someone else who happens to be paying attention to these forums… and knows that the MaddyXXXlogo would most definitely cause people to look at Noah as the perpetrator.
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April 24, 2017 at 5:32 pm #10737BlondieParticipant
I wonder if this was all in reaction to your promotional vid which wasn’t exactly considered on brand…
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April 24, 2017 at 5:33 pm #10739Brad RuweParticipant
@thebuz Do we have Noah’s email address? I mean we know Sarah handles the emails through The System. Can’t think of any email addresses being handled directly by Noah.
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April 24, 2017 at 5:35 pm #10741AnonymousInactive
Alright, well let’s all go ahead and change our email passwords…
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April 24, 2017 at 5:35 pm #10742AnonymousInactive
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April 24, 2017 at 5:36 pm #10743KortneyParticipant
Have you been able to tell them it’s Noah?
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April 24, 2017 at 5:37 pm #10744Andrew KaschParticipant
@thebuz I am writing the Sinclairs now. But considering it was Noah’s rogue screen name that was used, I don’t expect Sarah (who will undoubtedly be the one reading the e-mail) to take to kindly to this.
Whatever. I want answers, dammit!
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April 24, 2017 at 5:38 pm #10745Andrew KaschParticipant
@thebuz The subject line fake me sent was:
“Subject: Re: No thanks”Not much to go on there.
I really want to see the 2 other e-mail chains to see how bad this got…
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April 24, 2017 at 5:39 pm #10746
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April 24, 2017 at 5:41 pm #10747Meghan MayhemParticipant
@coryphella Ding, ding, ding. Very good point!
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April 24, 2017 at 5:43 pm #10748MarandaParticipant
The Maddyxxxlogo.jpg is super sus. First, that account on here doesn’t even have a profile pic. Second, if we presume @kasch’s impostor is Noah, who has access to the maddyxxx profile, why send Stacey a profile pic that hasn’t been used? If it’s not Noah, then someone is using the Maddyxxx name to shift the blame towards him.
Edit: Also, if you google image search “Maddyxxx” some very NSFW stuff comes up. Perhaps a third possibility is that Kasch’s impostor sent Stacy one of those photos instead?
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April 24, 2017 at 5:43 pm #10749monkeymuffin333Participant
What is Noah’s aim in stirring up all this trouble? Why does he specifically want @kasch out of iConfidant and his spouse in? I fail to see a throughline in any of his actions so far other than to be a massive, drunk, coked up pain in the ass.
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April 24, 2017 at 5:47 pm #10753AnonymousInactive
Fwd: Kasch correspondence, email chain 1 of 3 (Start date April 12, 2017) Case: KL304-1 (6)
What in the fuck does this mean?
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April 24, 2017 at 5:55 pm #10763Andrew KaschParticipant
In the interest of full disclosure, one of their IT guys called me and asked me if I was getting Stacey’s e-mails. My inbox showed nothing until a minute later when two of them appeared. One was the e-mail chain I posted. The second simply read “Test #5” and was blank without any information.
I assume IT was testing whether or not their e-mails were reaching me. Which means their first 4 tests didn’t arrive. Interesting.
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April 24, 2017 at 5:59 pm #10765Taylor WintersParticipant
When Sarah called me, she mentioned not being able to control him anymore. “I can’t even hide his antics.” Antics is an interesting choice of words–usually referring to foolish or outrageous actions. These aren’t calculated or protective measures–but rather ones done for fun. Noah is appearing more and more of a prankster to me. Causing trouble for the sake of amusement. I’m not sure if there’s a grander purpose behind these actions–other than to just mess with you, @kasch
This aligns well with what @monkeymuffin333 posted as well!
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April 24, 2017 at 6:00 pm #10767Tom KircherParticipant
I apologize if this has been mentioned already, but it’s possible that Noah (or whoever sent these) wouldn’t necessarily need to have an email password to send these. The O.O.A. was able to Caller ID spoof people during indoctrination, so maybe it’s possible that something similar can be done with an email address.
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April 24, 2017 at 6:01 pm #10768AnonymousInactive
So Noah is essentially Loki. Not Loki from Marvel but Loki from Supernatural.
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April 24, 2017 at 6:02 pm #10770MeganParticipant
@thebuz – If Noah was Loki from Marvel (as in the movies) I would have to rethink a few things I’ve said.
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April 24, 2017 at 6:02 pm #10771Hannah SchenckParticipant
My brain started pointing to Sarah or someone she is working close with who’s trying to tarnish Noah’s credibility again…. it’s either a warning to stay away from iConfidant from Noah, or it is a way to try and keep us from joining by someone else… someone is either feeling threatened or trying to ssve us from something…
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April 24, 2017 at 6:03 pm #10773Andrew KParticipant
@taysavestheday – maybe the real Noah is using these “antics” to distinguish himself from AI Noah – if there is one?
Still, seems like he’s trying really hard to stop @kasch from joining iConfidant…. is he protecting him?
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April 24, 2017 at 6:05 pm #10774Taylor WintersParticipant
Yes @thebuz! Nice Supernatural reference–a trickster god.
Now we need some Enochian Sigils, holy fire, or a blood spell! Who’s in?
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April 24, 2017 at 6:07 pm #10775AnonymousInactive
@anakindrew I highly doubt there are two Noah’s… physically anyway. I think that’s a rabbit hole that we probably shouldn’t go down as it’s a dead end. Same thing with the real robots and what have you.
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April 24, 2017 at 6:09 pm #10777Tom KircherParticipant
Something I’ve felt about Noah (and by extension, The System) is that his goal is to divide us. Thinking back to his rant from the “Back on Track” Periscope, he was very adamant that we are all alone, so maybe his antics serve as a way to isolate us. We are all alone, so he’s going to divide us further and further until we are all completely alone.
This is just a thought, of course, but I wonder if that might be the motive behind a number of his actions.
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April 24, 2017 at 6:12 pm #10778CristenParticipant
@thebuz I mean if we’re talking Supernatural then I expect you and Kasch to get transported to an alternative timeline where you are actors playing yourselves.
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April 24, 2017 at 6:13 pm #10779Andrew KaschParticipant
@wanda102 Whatever. Season 6.
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April 24, 2017 at 6:14 pm #10780Taylor WintersParticipant
@anakindrew, there’s been a lot of talk of dual personalities with Noah. I could see this “antics” side of him being the playful, chaotic side of him, which is a shadow to a more serious, business-like side.
I know for me, I am forced to be so business-oriented and science focused at work, when I come home I like to indulge in my artistic side. Immerse myself in theater, get lost in a narrative, or be different than how I have to be all day long. Being multifaceted is important–and these shadow sides may just be a different side of us (which has been discussed multiple times).
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April 24, 2017 at 6:16 pm #10781Andrew KParticipant
@k-w-t speaking of which, I found this wrote to be a very poingniant response to iconfidant ‘s Facebook post today, and it ties closely to your theory….
“We’re born alone, we live alone, we die alone. Only through our love and friendship can we create the illusion for the moment that we’re not alone.” – Orson Welles
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April 24, 2017 at 6:18 pm #10782LiaParticipant
@anakindrew @thebuz I’d also offer that even when he’s making nice, drinking water and playing along, Noah is still handing out cell phones in the men’s room. He’s just wiley like that.
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April 24, 2017 at 6:18 pm #10783Lawrence MeyersParticipant
@kasch Did you check your SEND box from your server to see if the Email actually came from your account?
Because it’s easy to spoof:
https://askleo.com/from_spoofing_how_spammers_send_email_that_looks_like_it_came_from_you/
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April 24, 2017 at 6:22 pm #10784JackieParticipant
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April 24, 2017 at 6:23 pm #10785Andrew KaschParticipant
@larry They were not sent from my account. It’s definitely a spoof.
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April 24, 2017 at 6:35 pm #10786Tom KircherParticipant
@kasch I’m not sure if this has been been asked already (if it has been, I apologize), but did the forwarded messages actually have the photo attached or did it just have the file name?
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April 24, 2017 at 6:40 pm #10788Andrew KaschParticipant
@k-w-t, no attachment. I asked Stacey to send it to me.
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April 24, 2017 at 6:40 pm #10789JackieParticipant
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April 24, 2017 at 6:44 pm #10792Meghan MayhemParticipant
@kasch Yeah, the absence of an attached image with only the super incriminating file name really does feel like a hand out of false accusation. Like someone wanted you to notice that. The question is, was it Noah winking at you, or someone else nudging at Noah?
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April 24, 2017 at 6:48 pm #10793ChrisParticipant
It’s very interesting that the abuse continued and seemed to actually get worse AFTER she had confirmed you were off the list. I had assumed Stacey made the decision to cut you after the horror of the emails, but that the imposter immediately requested it him or herself, Stacey complied with the request, and then was the victim of harassment anyway adds a very strange wrinkle. What was the point?
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April 24, 2017 at 6:56 pm #10794
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April 24, 2017 at 6:58 pm #10795Taylor WintersParticipant
@macbethinabathtub; some people just want to watch the world burn.
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April 24, 2017 at 7:04 pm #10797AnonymousInactive
@macbethinabathtub I had assumed the same.
This seems less like an attack on @kasch and more of a direct attack on Stacey and iConfidant.
Kasch may just be a randomly selected colateral damage.
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April 24, 2017 at 7:31 pm #10800Meghan MayhemParticipant
@macbethinabathtub My assumption would be that if he just requested he be removed from the list, it keeps the channel open for the possibility of @kasch going “oh sorry, there was a mistake. Please re-add me.” That becomes increasingly harder if someone burns the bridge on their way out, ensuring that if he asks to be put back on, Stacey may be, let’s just say, less than inclined to oblige the request.
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April 24, 2017 at 7:38 pm #10801NeilParticipant
Well damn. I have nothing solid to add that has not already been said, but well hot damn!
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April 24, 2017 at 8:53 pm #10819MelissaParticipant
Hypothetically if this is not actually Noah being a butthole and we have a Noah spoofer/shadow/AI then why is this person/thing just targeting @kasch*? If you want to make Noah look bad you’d get all the e-mail addresses you can possibly get your hands on and REALLY bring down Noah. Honestly I don’t know what to make of this. The hell is going on here?
*and maybe @lilmsfancpants?
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April 24, 2017 at 9:23 pm #10825Hannah SchenckParticipant
@theladyj thank you for that hahaha I finally made it onto your posters!! ?
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