Imprints and Shadows

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This topic contains 21 replies, has 12 voices, and was last updated by  Brad Ruwe 5 years, 1 month ago.

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  • #7188
     Anonymous

    I brought this up in another thread with @addisonborn the wise, and figured I should start a thread on this.

    This is PURELY speculation. But there is some interesting factors here.

    We all know from Tension that the OSDM gathered a TON of data on all of us, some more than others. What if in Lust they are implanting that data into people.

    As pointed out in other places on the forums Noah has been compared to me by a few folks.

    Sarah reminded me a hell of a lot of Kim (@electrichippo)…

    And now Melissa is being confused with this Melinda person.

    So is this whole thing with Shadow people and AI distinctly connected in terms of changing people’s personalities (via The Helmet from Tension) using Data collected from The Tension Experience.

    Creating the same person to fit your needs, or a Shadow of that person if you will.

  • #7193
     Maxwell R 
    Participant

    I absolutely could buy this, I have been wondering what they were doing with all the data they had collected. At “The End” they alluded to using it to sway mass groups toward their agenda (whatever it is) but with technological advancements over the past few months I don’t see why they couldn’t shift their motivations.

  • #7196
     Bryan Bishop 
    Participant

    I’m going to be really controversial here and say… you’re actually a pretty nice guy, @thebuz. Not nearly as much of a dickhead as Noah.

    (Now nevermind me, and let the theorizing commence.)

  • #7200
     Anonymous

    @bryan Who’s to say that they didn’t leave out my more compassionate tendencies. A shadow would take the base characteristics of someone (based on the info I gave) and use that for the imprint.

  • #7201
     Jackie 
    Participant

    What if we are the beta, and the real run through is for world leaders, business moguls and socialite movers/shakers? What if their mistake is this: we’re harvested for our most dominant personality trait, But people are vastly complicated, so it inherently fails, (Noah going off script). What would an AI understand of the complexities of the human soul? Do they even want souls?
    If they’re categorizing people into winning traits and failing traits, what could that even look like? And what happens if they’re wrong?

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 1 month ago by  Jackie.
  • #7207
     Anonymous

    @theladyj There were tons of implied stuff going on in Tension that they were able to swing the election due to their collection of data.

    So… this falls into that.

  • #7210
     Bryan Bishop 
    Participant

    @thebuz Fair point. If somebody’s engineering a personality from scratch, and they have access to the massive reserves of data that the forces in this case do, one would assume they would not simply go for clones. They’d want to improve and iterate by taking the bits and pieces they want, and leaving out others. Basically doing the designer baby version of personality creation and curation.

  • #7211
     Jackie 
    Participant

    @thebuz …and well indeed, a side from sounding too political, if puling data from the internet and limited interaction, created a proverbial terror…We’re all very, very fucked. And if the interaction we have between us and IT are helping create a pool of data (some would say a cesspool), then we should only be nice and courteous to one another!

  • #7213
     Cristen 
    Participant

    I’ll add here too that with the research we found on TACITUS yesterday, that they’d theoretically be able to study and replicate colloquial speech patterns for a possible “new human.” And we’ve given them plenty of original source data haven’t we?

  • #7215
     Brad Ruwe 
    Participant

    If they’re pulling text from the forums, I think we should start feeding some of these lines into our normal dialogue just to see if potential AI we encounter with ties to The System start using them.

    theportalwiki.com/wiki/Core_voice_lines

  • #7217
     Anonymous

    Also something I haven’t shared to the forums is an exchange I had with Sarah. I don’t feel like digging into my email and uploading to imagur.com so I’ll just transcribe but it went like this:

    Buz: Sarah, I’m sorry that you have to put up with so many of these people attacking you. If you need anything please let me know, here to support you and the brand.

    Sarah: “Perhaps it’s your resemblance but…. thank you. -Sarah”

    Not to say again that this theory holds any water, but even Sarah admits there’s similarities between Noah and myself.

  • #7219
     Mustafa Said 
    Participant

    If they’ve got bigger plans for mass Shadow production to fit the ideas @theladyj suggested…that doesn’t just scream dangerous to me. That’s just plain insane.

    Imagine the type of control someone could have once they’ve created a Shadow of that person and the Shadow is in a position of power. What could developed nations or dictatorships do with this ability backing them? I’m not sure if the Sinclair Inc have any real moral lines they wouldn’t cross; if there are enough zeros behind it do they care who has the potential as long as they have their hands on the button?

    I can only hope something like this isn’t the real plan.

  • #7222
     Jackie 
    Participant

    @mumumusings:
    “At first, we built it off nerds from the internet. Then theater go-ers. THEN THE WORLD.”

  • #7225
     Neil 
    Participant

    This is an absolutely insane theory, but the evidence is truly there. @thebuz any other interactions or subtleties that may stick out at you? If that’s the case who is next?

  • #7226
     Anonymous

    That is an interesting theory @thebuz.

  • #7228
     Shaun 
    Participant

    @thebuz your resemblance may help support them and the brand? That sure sounds suspect.. something worth being ‘never silent’ about!

  • #7231
     Anonymous

    @electrichippo To answer your question of simalarities of you to Sarah.

    She was very “in controll” of the room, and she had certain mannerisms with nods and tilts that very much reminded me of you particularly.

  • #7236
     Maranda 
    Participant

    @mumumusings They might look insane, or outright villainous, but nobody ever thinks of themselves as the bad guy. Does the OSDM (or whoever they are) really think they’re doing a good thing for the world? If they just want to make a profit, there are other, easier ways to do that.

  • #7264
     Meghan Mayhem 
    Participant

    So, speaking of replication…

    Today is a rather notable day in cinematic history.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/blade-runner-timeline-has-been-reached-992369

  • #7265
     Jackie 
    Participant

    SO MANY NEW ‘MEMBERS’ ARE JOINING.

  • #7266
     Brad Ruwe 
    Participant

    @theladyj Seriously. It’s getting pretty SUS up in here. Right @rizzzoooooo?

  • #7267
     Brad Ruwe 
    Participant

    Whipped up this gif for another thing @rizzzoooooo and I did. Think it’s time to resurrect it for Lust.

    SUS

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