A Dangerous Fanatic

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  • #23093
     JoyceCarlberg 
    Participant

    First things first, congratulations to you all, I am indeed back and at your service!

    I took a much needed voluntary hiatus to realign my… sensitivities. I think you will all soon agree that I am now much more straight forward, succinct and to the point. So, on that very note let me just say that while I initially attempted to ignore all of the restless dithering on about a certain new disruptive personality in our midst, I have now decided to err on the side of caution and disclose all the information that we have on this particularly troubled individual.

    Let me be absolutely clear, this person is a dangerous lunatic who can not be reasoned with or trusted. Anyone who has extended contact with them should be completely aware that that they are extremely manipulative, highly adaptable and very often, dangerous.

    Even I fell under their trap initially and mistakenly believed that the situation was in hand when after several days of repeatedly telling them that there was nothing more that I was willing to help them with and that the wisest course of action was to move along, they suddenly surprised every single one of us by contacting our community and riling you up with talk of ethics violations this and ethics violations that. Fortunately, this has proved as fruitless as their initial contact with our organization, so now out of options and resources, they have resorted to nothing short of petty blackmail.

    Just this very evening they sent us compromising files on several of you detailing horrendous personal information up to and including depraved and heinous sexual proclivities, dark and peculiar states of mind and deeply troubling, specific thoughts about family and so-called friends.

    It us all very, very troubling indeed.

    Fear not though, we will not let any harm come your way. We will do everything at our great disposal to assure that this person can not and does not release any of these files! The quickest way to help us with this defense against these criminal and brutal manipulations is to simply not engage. We can not offer refuge to anyone’s reputation if they were to try and deal with this person. Once again, let me be very clear, the way to avoid any possibility of retribution is to simply steer clear of this individual and to treat this man like the disgruntled and obsessed fanatic that he is.

  • #23094
     Nicole Mae 
    Participant

    “everything is fine”

  • #23095
     Kortney 
    Participant

    Will you be reaching out to those whose files they have access to?

  • #23096
     Meghan Mayhem 
    Participant

    Oh @joycecarlberg, I’ve heard this song of yours before. Catchy little tune.

    https://youtu.be/F1ILPl5FQaM

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 2 weeks ago by  Meghan Mayhem.
  • #23097
     Cristen 
    Participant

    Oh hey, Joyce. Thanks for, uh, looking out for us while a different shadow organization attempts to scare us with their access to our personal information, I guess? Sorry wait what’s the difference?

  • #23099
     Maranda 
    Participant

    @joycecarlberg, thank you for taking the time to reach out, though I can’t say that all my concerns have been dispelled. Should we take your advice and cease engagement, what exactly is stopping Mason from releasing the information you claim he has, besides your word? You also claim to have information on them, and we would appreciate it if you could share any concrete facts about his motives or the motives of the Briarberg foundation. Forgive me for doubting your resources but as you know we are all very on-edge at the moment.

  • #23100
     Buz Wallick 
    Moderator

    Hope you thought my file was hot af.

  • #23101
     Sean 
    Moderator

    What deep dark secrets, horrendous sexual proclivities or taboo and troubling thoughts could this community possibly have?

    …Actually don’t answer that

  • #23103
     Chelsea 
    Participant

    Fight fight fight!

  • #23105
     Robert Fuller 
    Participant

    Mason posted but now it’s deleted.

  • #23106
     Shaun 
    Participant

    @remrelganaps what did Mason’s post say?

    @joycecarlberg I’m glad you’ve got our backs on this. I feel my data is safe with you and The Experiences!

  • #23107
     Brad Ruwe 
    Participant

    Well then…. uhhhh hey @joycecarlberg… uhhhh I wouldn’t happen to be in those files, right?

    No reason, just curious.

  • #23108
     Meghan Mayhem 
    Participant

    So let me get this straight…

    A “disgruntled fan” just so happened to find these specific people’s email addresses, phone numbers, and personal private information. Just so happened upon it, huh?

    Mhmm.

  • #23109
     Anonymous

    I am going to continue treating Mason as I have been. @joycecarlberg please learn how to better spin these things. Saying everything is okay is a smokescreen and frankly it is vexing at this point.

  • #23110
     Kevin Hsu 
    Participant

    @joycecarlberg , your transparency is much appreciated but your information on this particular individual seems rather lacking.

  • #23111
     Violet 
    Participant

    @joycecarlberg Everything’s fine, you say?? Don’t worry our pretty little heads about this insignificant pest?? hmmm…sounds legit.

  • #23112
     Chris 
    Participant

    Classic @joycecarlberg logic, she really is just looking out for us, isn’t she? Mason is the one with the sensitive files about us, but of COURSE it’s magically within her power to keep the dirt from being leaked as long as we promise to ignore him. Now why exactly would Mason leak our information if we tried to help him? Oh right, he wouldn’t. We don’t even have to read between the lines to find Joyce’s threats, that’s how lazy she is. Unless this is a double-blind and she’s using reverse psychology to drive us into Mason the OSDM spy’s waiting arms, but when has the OSDM ever been that clever? I don’t care what horrendous personal information you have on me, Joyce. Anyone who has you this riled up is absolutely worth a listen.

  • #23113
     Kevin 
    Participant

    I have now decided to err on the side of caution and disclose all the information that we have on this particularly troubled individual.

    @joycecarlberg In the past, I’ve enjoyed the fact that you’re relatively straight with us, but that is not the case here. That is definitely not all of the information you have available on Mason. In fact, you’ve give us hardly any information on the man. Could you provide us with more details on him, his position with the Briarberg Foundation, or Briarberg itself?

    You seemed happy the other day that Briarberg had come forward the other day so you could “right a wrong”. Now seems like an opportune time to let us know what you know about Mason.

  • #23114
     Bryan Bishop 
    Participant

    @joycecarlberg! First off, it’s great to see you on the forums again. You have been missed.

    Thanks for the update about Mason. I’m sure everyone here is glad to learn whatever we can about him. But I did have a couple questions I was hoping you could clear up…

    Mason was trying to get hold of a certain group of actors. As I’m sure you saw, it turns out almost every single one of those actors seems to have some very mixed feelings about their participation in Tension, and The Investors in particular. Can you comment on the concerns raised – and why Mr. Silver, dangerous fanatic though he may be, is trying to reach them specifically?

  • #23115
     Cristen 
    Participant

    I wouldn’t hold your breath for more info @kevin. You know what happens when we wait around for Joyce.

  • #23116
     Brad Ruwe 
    Participant

    Just got this email from Mason:

    “Clever, clever make me seem in game while you figure out how to stop this. Lies and fiction. Is there a difference? When real people are involved and slandered there most certainly is. Since you are trigger happy with deleting posts on your public forum, I would love to see you delete mail from people’s inboxes.

    I do not plan on blackmailing anyone with the files that my people were given. I would never do that and have not even slightly insinuated that I would.

    I ask not that you believe me but that you look in your heart and accept the thing that you already know. The only path is truth and that it begins with me. I beg all of you to change their fiction into reality and release any and all information you have that may lead to exposing the infractions that this group has clearly committed.

    They are trying to turn me, and this into another trailhead. Be smarter than the nonsense they are trying to create and distract you with.

    Respectfully Yours,

    MS”

  • #23117
     Maranda 
    Participant

    An open response to Mason:
    So the files you have were given to you, were they? Not obtained by yourselves? I wonder why that is?

  • #23118
     Meghan Mayhem 
    Participant

    My reply to our email blast from Mr. Silver-

    Dear MS,

    I joined the path of truth ages ago and have every intention of continuing to expose these little cockroaches for what they are.

    Hope you enjoy fire.

    Love,
    Mayhem.

  • #23119
     Lia 
    Participant

    @izryn Nice catch on that verbiage. As always, Noah gets shit done.

    At the same time, I really hope he knows what he’s doing.

  • #23120
     Addison 
    Participant

    “Just this very evening they sent us compromising files on several of you detailing horrendous personal information up to and including depraved and heinous sexual proclivities, dark and peculiar states of mind and deeply troubling, specific thoughts about family and so-called friends.”

    – You act surprised about these files, @joycecarlberg. Which is weird considering you’re a member of the organization that initially gathered those files and held an event specifically to rub our noses in it.

    Hope your retrea- er. Realignment was enjoyable!

  • #23121
     Meghan Mayhem 
    Participant

    @izryn @lilmsfancpants
    Oh my god that totally tracks.
    Noah is anti OSDM because he’s anti daddy. Trying to steer the path he wants without getting his hands too dirty.
    Mason ends up sounding like a wacky unsolicited mouthpiece for the resistance.
    Noah was the last to physically have the files it TOTALLY makes sense he’d pass it on so someone wouldn’t use it against us so much as use it as evidence against THEM.

    ooooooooohhh!!!!

  • #23122
     Shaun 
    Participant

    So we’re thinking Noah is working with Mason? I was thinking Mason was Noah until I realized people have heard him on the phone..

  • #23124
     Chelsea 
    Participant

    Oh snap, @lilmsfancpants. That’s… that’s interesting as all hell.

  • #23125
     KINGKILL33 
    Participant

    Alright got 3 calls in a row here. I have no idea who it’s truly from, but it has to be in response to my reply from Mason’s email that I just received tonight. My reply:
    “Shut the fuck up Mason. No one wants to hear you cry, certainly not me. Plus, I never gave you my email, so my trust in you is none at this moment. Go find someone else to blabber your nonsense to…”
    After that I received a call with someone crying on the other end for a few seconds then click. I posted to Slack to let them all know that I had received a phone call when another call came in. “You done crying now?” Then comes on the same voice, but now he’s laughing. Click. Ok, back to Slack, I finish my message that I was on before the call and then I receive another call. I have no idea what it was besides some kind of weird laughing, possibly a hyena? Maybe laughter down a hallway where it had that weird echo?? I have no idea what it was, but I certainly think Mason got my email and now he wants to play games? Whatever, Mason’s a bitch anyways… come at me with something better than your minute switch bipolar kiddie ride.

  • #23126
     Violet 
    Participant

    Oh shit!! @izryn good catch! If that’s the case that would make an odd sorta sense.

  • #23127
     Chris 
    Participant

    I find it very interesting that Mason used the phrase “in game.” Our words. In his mind, being called out by @joycecarlberg speaking out about him is making him look “in game.” So Mason wants us to believe Joyce is in game but he is out of game. This feels like a new and very pointed blurring of the few lines there are left. When Marcos asked @theladyj all those months ago whether she was enjoying The Lust Experience, it begged the question: what IS The Lust Experience? I think Mason is offering us not only a clear look at what the smokescreen has been hiding, but who and what don’t really exist outside of the smoke.

  • #23128
     Robert Fuller 
    Participant

    I’d like to think that Noah’s drop-the-mic pronouncement at the end of the System seminar would signify something more inspiring than “I’m going to pass your files on to some creepy tool,” but he is the most likely source of Mason’s info.

  • #23129
     Meghan Mayhem 
    Participant

    I would like to remind you all of somethi g Noah said in his rant to his father during our warehouse B&E.
    After showing the box of our files he said this:

    “… But you know what, that’s Ok. That’s OK because I know that this is still the only power that I have. Small as it may seem, but for the time I can deal with it. Cause you know why, cause I’ve got the fucking secrets. Mmhmm. So I think it would be very good of you to let her (Sarah) go because if you don’t, I’m going to shed as much fucking light as I want to and you will be exposed and I know that you don’t want that. So that’s what we’re gonna do.”

  • #23130
     KINGKILL33 
    Participant

    Did anyone else receive a call from Mason? tonight? Did it seem to you that it might’ve been Noah on the other line?

  • #23132
     Sage 
    Participant

    Lunatic, crazy hyena laughter, reminds them of Crispin Glover… I’m kinda liking this Mason fellow.

  • #23133
     Buz Wallick 
    Moderator

    Just got a call and going to post it here to keep things neat and tidy.

    No Caller ID pops up right after I hung up with @kasch (talking unrelated stuff about Stephen Kings IT).

    Me: Hellooooo
    Male Voice: I’M TRYING TO HELP YOU!

    At this point I started to slightly chuckle because I imagined Mason (who I assume was the one who screamed this) was just sitting at his computer utterly frustrated with the responses he’s getting.

    But the voice sounded tinny. Like it was being played through computer speakers. Then:

    Female Voice: I’m done. I don’t want to do this anymore.

    There was one other thing that I am kicking myself for not being able to remember, but this voice was also tinny. And I heard clicks between each thing.

    So… that was weird.

    • #23145
       Lawrence Meyers 
      Participant

      @thebuz

      Presently under discussion in Slack, I recall we had been told we’d forgotten about someone awhile back and never figured out who it was?

      Could it be Michelle?

      1) @thebuz got a call saying “I’m trying to help you”. This is a callback to exactly what Michelle said to him on her visit:

      A Visitor In the Night from a Familiar Face 5/15

      2) On the same visit, she toasted to Buz being “clever”. Mason’s recent emails starts, “Clever, clever…”

      It may mean nothing but worth exploring. She did say that the rug was pulled out from under her. That perhaps OSDM is not what it appears to be? That perhaps it is not the overarching control here. That perhaps, as Stephanie suggested, “this is not theater”?

      Also worth exploring, as Buz just said, “The plant we don’t know about”.

  • #23135
     Kevin 
    Participant

    @thebuz Any chance the woman’s voice was Stacey’s?

  • #23136
     Kristin 
    Participant

    Are we all just going to pretend that @joycecarlberg isn’t such an angel herself? I mean threatening phone calls are a favorite for her it seems 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • #23137
     Lia 
    Participant

    @thebuz I don’t like the sound of that at all. Not. One. Bit.

    Is this a prank call? A joke to them? Or did they all sound as concerned as the first guy did?

  • #23138
     Kevin Hsu 
    Participant

    @thebuz, that could be a recording of Mason unsuccessfully trying to convince an actress to help him.

  • #23139
     Sage 
    Participant

    These calls are very abstract.

  • #23140
     Anonymous

    These phone calls, if meant to convince us that we are wrong, are only serving to make Mason look more unhinged and untrustworthy.

  • #23141
     Buz Wallick 
    Moderator

    I do not know whose voice was on the phone female wise. It didn’t sound immediately familiar.

    It also wasn’t a continuous clip. Like it said the first thing. CLICK. Beat…. Then next thing. Repeat.

    Like someone playing selected clips of a recorded conversation.

  • #23142
     Shaun 
    Participant

    This could get really meta.. to the point where @a/@joycecarlberg fabricated this Mason resurgence just to make him look unhinged and untrustworthy.

  • #23143
     Lawrence Meyers 
    Participant

    I wasn’t around for ARG last year. But keeping with the theme of Shadows, is it possible Mason is a double for someone from last year, as others have suggested? If so, could you provide details as to who that person was and their characteristics?

  • #23146
     Cristen 
    Participant

    I don’t know if any of this makes me more inclined to have faith in Mason, but Mason at least is reminding us not to fall for distractions, something I myself will definitely admit I have been guilty of (credit to the razor wit of my girl Joyce for that tho, I’m a sucker for charm.)

    But I’m ready to pull the wool off my eyes regardless of what’s underneath. I’m just not entirely sure what Mason expects us to do for him.

  • #23147
     Buz Wallick 
    Moderator

    @larry

    And to repeat exactly what I said in slack in regards to that.

    Heres then thing… if it was Michelle… why not use something that would immediately link me to her?

    There are plenty of ways to connect to Michelle. You’d think there’d be another way.

    I’m trying to avoid assumptions here since it’s easy for a theory to take hold and get us all very very off base.

    The goal of that call was to show that there is someone who is being forced to do something they dont want to do anymore.

    That’s what we should be focusing on.

  • #23148
     Lawrence Meyers 
    Participant

    @thebuz If that’s what you took it to mean, that’s likely the path to pursue.

    But do consider that if Michelle is persona non grata, direct contact is risky to her.

  • #23149
     Sage 
    Participant

    Just a feeling, but my guess is that it’s a actress/performer who doesn’t want to do this and might be being forced to. This is more than just a show, lines are being crossed or it’s a all guise for something else, something darker and some performers are not happy about it… (how many performers reached today said they didn’t want to be involved anymore…a lot, which is odd).

  • #23150
     Buz Wallick 
    Moderator

    @larry You are forcing a rectangle peg in round hole. There is zero evidence and you are missing the point of the call which is what @sfire8 summarized above me.

    Don’t get lost looking at the trees when there’s a whole forest to take in.

  • #23151
     Lawrence Meyers 
    Participant

    @thebuz as you wish, Gandalf.

  • #23152
     Jackie 
    Participant

    The Mason email seems…pieced together, different fonts, a bit wonky on the grammar. A group message? A group thought? I think this especially, because of the mention of more than once voice on the most recent phone calls.
    I also wary when any regulating body says, “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.” Deranged thinking, never usually just started deranged; it’s usually a beach, not a cliff face.

  • #23155
     Blondie 
    Participant

    So I wake up this morning to an email… I freak out a little but notice on the rss feed that @kasch has already posted to forum about it. But his post isn’t here anymore? Andrew, did you delete it or were you censored? Everyone got this email right?

  • #23156
     Jackie 
    Participant

    @blondie
    I believe so, a blast email that couldnt be silenced or deleted. And depending how bold one feels, it could be responded to.

    Also
    @joycecarlberg

    Just this very evening they sent us compromising files on several of you detailing horrendous personal information up to and including depraved and heinous sexual proclivities, dark and peculiar states of mind and deeply troubling, specific thoughts about family and so-called friends.

    Sounds like a pretty fun party, don’t threaten me with a good time. :3

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 2 weeks ago by  Jackie.
  • #23158
     Buz Wallick 
    Moderator

    @blondie I deleted it for him since it had already been posted earlier in the thread.

  • #23159
     Blondie 
    Participant

    Gotcha @thebuz, thanks. Still catching up myself and desperately trying to caffeinate to an adequate level. With all the deleting going on around here, it’s easy to jump to conclusions 😉

  • #23160
     Megan 
    Participant

    Hey @joycecarlberg! Long time no hear from.

    So Mason sent you files on us? Were they…different…than the files you already had on us? Obviously they couldn’t have contained anything you didn’t already know, right?

    As for our partnership, as discussed briefly back in July, if you are still needing my help then we should talk soon as my life is about to be swallowed by 16 incoming freshmen and the onslaught of a semester. If I’m not as responsive or active as usual it’s not due to lack of interest on my part, just lack of free time. If I could put off the semester starting indefinitely, I would.

  • #23161
     Mike 
    Participant

    I was thinking about the theory that Mason could be Noah. We know that the helmet is new and improved and more advanced now. What if Papa Sinclair and Papa Barrow put the new helmet on Noah and he is also Mason. Since the helmet is improved at this point, maybe they can input multiple personalities instead of just one (like with Sabrina/Addison and helmet 1.0). This time, it’s Levi/Noah/Mason.

    If the helmet technology is constantly improving and they have Iconfidant’s software to use. We can’t really believe anyone is who they say anymore. #teamparanoia

  • #23162
     Twan Intarathuch 
    Participant

    Oh hey guys! What kinda fun have you been up to?

    *reads new posts

    Oh….

    I’ll see myself out =)

  • #23163
     Megan 
    Participant

    What would they have to gain from creating “Mason” though?

  • #23164
     Mike 
    Participant

    @coryphella – to keep us wondering/fighting/off balance/questioning/not trusting/etc

    To keep us from the truth. Ever notice that when we seem to get close to something, something like this happens that makes us all rethink what we think?

    Think about the people behind it. They don’t care about us, just our data. They don’t want to be exposed.

  • #23165
     Megan 
    Participant

    OK, so Mason says in his email “The only path is truth and that it begins with me.” (meaning he wants us to believe that it begins with him)

    We then have the FB post today, “One of the greatest pains to human nature is the pain of a new idea.”

    Is Mason (or his truth) that new idea?

    We tend to react to everyone and everything thrown at us with sarcasm and suspicion and obstinacy, and I’m not sure that gets us anywhere. It obviously hasn’t gotten ME anywhere. I don’t think it necessarily matters who emails him, and who doesn’t, but I’m willing to try sincerity. Despite what Noah said about me in the last chapter I actually don’t cling to ideas too tightly, I like new ideas and am very willing to listen to what Mason has to say.

  • #23166
     Sage 
    Participant

    @coryphella, I totally agree. We are so suspicious of everything, I hope we’re not just shutting down story lines that could lead us somewhere new…

  • #23167
     Jackie 
    Participant

    @macbethinabathtub

    View post on imgur.com

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  • #23169
     Bryan Bishop 
    Participant

    I applaud your commitment to being open to different points of view, @coryphella. Sometimes it does seem as if our collective desire to hold on to what we think is going on keeps us from fairly considering all possible options.

    @mike Interesting theory about Noah=Mason. I don’t know that I buy it yet – we’ve already seen that Noah knows how to go to the mattresses when it’s required, and he’s got more community support than he’s ever had before if he needed an assist. But I can think of one very good reason why Horace / OSDM might want a Mason out there running around.

    Right now @111error runs BOS, ostensibly as an independent entity. If the real PTB were worried about containing anti-OSDM or anti-Investor sentiment, what better way than to create their own figure that wants to reveal “the truth,” and hopefully control that sentiment with him?

  • #23171
     Violet 
    Participant

    @bcbishop That’s a good point, too. I brought up the idea when Mason showed up on slack & had that supposed phone call with A…maybe this is another attempt at misdirection. Maybe Mason is in cahoots with either A or Joyce and this is a new way to get us distracted and confused and suspicious of everything so we can be more easily manipulated??

  • #23172
     Mike 
    Participant

    @bcbishop

    Noah knows how to go to the mattresses when it’s required

    He sure does! Play on player…LUUUSTTTT

    Here’s the thing, and I know I’ll get shit on by BoS members for this, but, to call BoS an “independent entity” feels like them trying to gain the trust of all of us because one of our own is running it. But BoS was something created by the OSDM and because of the power that WE gave it, it became real. The BoS members made it real. That doesn’t mean BoS is free from OSDM or that OSDM isn’t pulling strings within their ranks as well. I don’t even mean intentionally. They can manipulate things without any of us noticing until it’s too late.

    Maybe BoS is the CNN of this all and is telling us all what we want to hear.

  • #23173
     Bryan Bishop 
    Participant

    @mike

    I know I’ll get shit on by BoS members for this, but, to call BoS an “independent entity” feels like them trying to gain the trust of all of us because one of our own is running it.

    We’re on the same page. Hence, “ostensibly as an independent entity.”

    I chose my words carefully. 😉

  • #23174
     Mike 
    Participant

    @bcbishop – You’re such a righter

    I chose my spelling carefully <3

  • #23175
     Blondie 
    Participant

    Sorry, thought we were talking about Mason on this thread…

    On that topic, I find it interesting that he claims to be the truth and yet has he actually told us anything? He wants information sure, but how can we be sure he has any information to give us in return? I know it’s been discussed that we are so wary that we are likely to shut down potential new sources BUT this just smacks of the Omega Council again… Give up your friends to further your path, but what does it actually get you in the end?

  • #23176
     Violet 
    Participant

    EXACTLY @blondie…he hasn’t given us shit but vague allusions. if he’s really interested in being helpful, he oughta be willing to give up SOME kind of info to let us know he can be trusted. But @coryphella‘s point also stands…that we shouldn’t be so suspicious that we miss something important. At this point everything seems to be chaos. What are we overlooking??

    (also new life goal is to be quoted in one of @theladyj‘s creations!!)

  • #23177
     Blondie 
    Participant

    I’m open to hear what he has to say… If anything. But I’m not exactly in the position to offer him information in return so I’m not holding my breath

  • #23182
     Russell 
    Participant

    I feel like I am catching up… always. @joycecarlberg comes along and has issues with Mason. Mason comes along and has issues with… well, everybody, it seems. Sometimes this community seem to just hate… everyone. (Sometimes, even each other.)

    Joyce began this conversation… I’d like to say something about this mysterious woman.
    Yes, Joyce has obviously rubbed some people the wrong way. For me, she is the only person who has actually checked in on me and actually, seemingly with sincerity, inquired where I stand in all of this. I feel disconnected… she asks why. No one else has done that. Unfortunately, the questions she asked took me completely off guard, I did not have an answer. If I get asked again, I will be better prepared, certainly.

    But I left Tension not sure how I felt about everything. I didn’t know if I had a place in The System, they did not seem to feel I was worthy. I didn’t connect with anybody at Registration, once again I felt judged and dismissed. Then, iConfidant didn’t push whatever buttons it so clearly was supposed to.
    And then there was Joyce.

    Here’s the deal. I don’t care if Joyce rubs anyone the wrong way. I would not categorize her (after our one meeting) as a “warm and fuzzy” person by any means. But, damn, she did ask me how I was doing and how she might be able to help me find my way… back… to all of you and whatever this twisted reality is. If she has an agenda of her own, I really don’t care. I have to be #teamJoyce because it’s the only team that seems to have any eye on the community as a whole.

    100% trustworthy? Maybe not. But when betting the horses, the trick is to bet on the horse that has the stats that indicate it will cross that finish line first and healthy.

  • #23183
     Lauren Bello 
    Moderator

    100% trustworthy? Maybe not. But when betting the horses, the trick is to bet on the horse that has the stats that indicate it will cross that finish line first and healthy.

    @russell – Would you say that’s what we should be doing, though? Betting on a winner?

    Isn’t it better go to down swinging than compromise our values and align ourselves with someone simply because they seem to have the upper hand?

    (That is not a reflection on your choosing to be #teamjoyce, btw – you obviously have a slightly more personal connection with her than most of us can claim. But for the rest of us, isn’t worrying about trustworthiness – and the fact that she has overtly threatened one of our own – pretty damn important?)

  • #23184
     Anonymous

    @russell Your words make so much sense to me because I have felt similarly regarding everything you mentioned along this journey (sans attending Tension/Ascension). Knowing that Joyce has been the only one to actually draw a response from you by asking you how to help you connect to this whole thing also makes so much sense to me because that “checking in” seems to have been lacking.

    Thank you for sharing your persceptive on #TeamJoyce. It was well explained and made so much sense. 🙂

  • #23185
     Bryan Bishop 
    Participant

    Well said, @russell. There’s a few of us around here that know what it’s like to connect with Joyce. I’m so happy you had the experience you did with her. <3 <3 <3

  • #23186
     Russell 
    Participant

    @daela I totally understand what you are saying, Lauren, I do. Mainly, I made the analogy in reference to the comparison some people seem to be making between Mason and Joyce. I think some folks would rejoice if a WWF-style Extreme Cage Match were announced with those two fighting to the death.

    And, yeah, I said “100% trustworthy?” because I know there have been moments that don’t make easily trusting Joyce a possibility. It’s not just about who has the upper hand, goodness knows I have my fair share of trust issues with The Powers That Be and everyone else right now. In this conversation, I get the sense that Joyce is the choice for me to believe in. I understand if you do not feel the same.

    Thank you for the understanding words, @bcbishop and @mamatato

    As far as the theory that Mason is Noah is Mason is Noah. When Mason called me, I did not feel that the voice was familiar in any way. Don’t know if that counts for much, but I did not register it as familiar in any way.

  • #23187
     Lauren Bello 
    Moderator

    Mainly, I made the analogy in reference to the comparison some people seem to be making between Mason and Joyce.

    Ahhh, thank you for clarifying! That makes sense to me – between the two, she’s shared more information, interacted more with the community, and seems to be all around less volatile than Mason. I thought you were saying that your path was best served by picking the overall side that will come out on top, which confused me as it didn’t sound like you. This makes more sense. <3

  • #23188
     Russell 
    Participant

    @daela Haha! Oops, sorry if that was unclear. I don’t even know how many sides there are right now, let alone trying to choose which may … oh… I don’t know… rise like a phoenix, perhaps? 🙂

  • #23189
     Megan 
    Participant

    How you view @joycecarlberg depends on how you view Lust & your answer to the question “why are you here?”

    First of all, yes, we as a group have a knee-jerk reaction that is part sarcasm, part hostility toward almost every new “character” we meet. I mean, if there are questions as to why people talk to @bcbishop we might want to start there, because his responses don’t reflect that at all. And before anyone gets all “but those are performers/people we know in real life vs characters in Lust” think about a couple of things…

    One, you have no idea who is a performer and who isn’t.
    Two, treating the in-game characters like real people is the point.

    Secondly, the information that is potentially being used to blackmail us is information we willingly gave them. Has anyone seen proof of anything outside of iconfidant emails, Tension questionnaires, Eventbrite confirmations, etc that would actually require effort to obtain? The fact is we WANT them to threaten us and that’s why we gave that info. It’s boring if they don’t. We want that experience. Any power they have over us we gave to them and are still giving to them, because we want them to use it against us. Joyce represents the people giving us that experience, she’s the theatre behind it, the true reason for why we’re here. We’re here to be fucked with, and she can do that.

  • #23190
     Lawrence Meyers 
    Participant

    @coryphella

    “Why are you here?”

    We must keep asking ourselves that question. (See “Westworld” clip).

    We’ve also been told this is about Ouroboros/Plato’s Cave.

    Keep this in mind always.

    Joyce? Mason? The actors? Horace? Noah?

    Do they serve the story — YOUR story — the reason why you are here?

    Don’t know yet? Then reserve judgment. There’s no rush.

  • #23191
     Megan 
    Participant

    @larry

    ok.

  • #23195
     Cristen 
    Participant

    I just got a version of the call @thebuz received last night. Instead I had a mans voice whispering “are you listening.” I said yes and then a girl, calmly, on recording, said “I’m done, I don’t want to do this anymore, I just want it to stop.” Then some clicking, maybe a recorder stopping, and the call ended.

  • #23196
     Bryan Bishop 
    Participant

    @wanda102 Did the women’s voice sound familiar at all?

  • #23198
     Chloe 
    Participant

    Are these recordings of the actors/actresses? Did Mason manage to find tapes of some sort of recordings of them when they started wanting out of Tension or Lust? I don’t know, I still have a feeling that Mason will turn out to be something bad (or have something bad happen to him like @confuseddude or Otis), but as of right now it seems like he’s trying to help us learn what the heck is going on behind closed doors.

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