8/21 Email from Mason Silver

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  • #22592
     Brad Ruwe 
    Participant

    Just received this email from someone named Mason Silver.

    “My company is currently piecing together a report on ethics in “immersive theatre,” more specifically agency within extreme narratives. We have been following TENSION since mid last year.

    I have been hearing some unsubstantiated reports coming out of this season that is concerning from an outsider’s standpoint and would love to ask if you would be willing to share your experience.

    My main focus is more directed at data mining, and the selling of data mined content from players who believe their information is only being used for entertainment purposes.

    In the last few weeks we have seen the release and selling of “Participant” files and profiles released through TOR based services. We are very curious to speak to you at your earliest convenience.

    Respectfully,
    Mason Silver”

    Responded to the email asking to learn more if there is indeed data being sold. Will keep everyone informed.

    Also, it sounds like @kasch received this email as well. Could this potentially be Exhibit C mentioned in the previous leak?

  • #22593
     Mike 
    Participant

    I got it too @nothenrygale

    So as of right now, the Exhibit C thing fits. What about @mamatato

  • #22594
     Robert Fuller 
    Participant

    Mason Silver just registered on here, which seems suspicious. Also, why only send e-mails to two people (so far)?

  • #22595
     Robert Fuller 
    Participant

    Okay, three. Anyone else?

  • #22596
     Brad Ruwe 
    Participant

    So it sounds like everyone mentioned in the leak from HiB is getting this email, which would suggest this is Exhibit C. Also, I just realized…. the letter C looks like the ring from an almost complete eclipse….

  • #22597
     Kevin 
    Participant

    If this is Exhibit C, wouldn’t that point to Mason Silver being connected to OSDM (or whoever is responsible for the contract)?

  • #22598
     Megan 
    Participant

    I didn’t get the email.
    But I sure am writing a thing right now. Oddly enough, it’s related. LOL

  • #22599
     Brad Ruwe 
    Participant

    @kevin Not necessarily. He could’ve seen our names in the info leak and reached out to us, knowing we were involved. It seems likely this is Exhibit C, but it’s not necessarily a confirmation. Just highly likely.

  • #22600
     Cristen 
    Participant

    Good point @kevin, you guys should definitely investigate what he’s about, but proceed with caution.

  • #22601
     Bryan Bishop 
    Participant

    @kevin Good catch. So if this is the Exhibit C ploy, then the idea of data collection is actually being used within the narrative of The Experience in order to engage players.

    Which means either a) Those behind the curtain have no problems discussing their hidden agenda publicly as a “story” point to drive engagement… or b) That the data collection scheme itself is just another fictional invention, and we have no idea what the real hidden agenda is at all.

  • #22602
     Robert Fuller 
    Participant

    Also, I just realized…. the letter C looks like the ring from an almost complete eclipse….

    And a coffee stain, though I don’t know if there’s a connection there.

  • #22603
     Andrew Kasch 
    Participant

    This definitely smells like Exhibit C in action.

    E-mailed him back, of course. This could be a wonderful opportunity to learn about certain “investors.”

    • This reply was modified 2 years, 1 month ago by  Andrew Kasch.
  • #22605
     Meghan Mayhem 
    Participant

    If @masons72 is so concerned about data mining and personal information, perhaps he can explain how he obtained all your personal email addresses.

  • #22606
     Anonymous

    @meghanmayhem Agreed. This smells an awful lot like Tom Barrow’s email warning to Ascension participants.

  • #22607
     Mike 
    Participant

    @meghanmayhem – I was thinking the same thing. A couple things pop into mind 1) in his research, he purchased test files to make sure they’re legit 2) he’s just another smoke screen that someone is introducing to us to have look at a new “shiny object”

  • #22608
     Sean 
    Moderator

    Well this is certainly a bit concerning, does anyone else remember getting asked questions that were explicitly standard security questions? Mothers’ maiden name, street you grew up on, etc?

    If we have some profiles floating around with those on some .onion site somewhere it could mean some… less than good things for all of our online security.

  • #22609
     Andrew Kasch 
    Participant

    Yeah, I’m willing to bet our “files” were among those that Mason discovered.

    (Plus, my e-mail can be easily obtained by anyone with an IMDB Pro account.)

  • #22610
     Anonymous

    For those needing a refresher the people getting this email are connected to Exhibit C which was mentioned in the Hostess in Black twitter leaks a few weeks ago.

  • #22611
     Kevin 
    Participant

    @thegilded Yeah, those were the initial iConfidant calls that went out.

  • #22612
     KINGKILL33 
    Participant

    I’m sensing another snake in the grass.

  • #22613
     Bryan Bishop 
    Participant

    Obviously, it seems like the only way we’ll be able to answer some of the questions in this thread is to actually see the profiles that @masons72 claims are available on the dark web.

    We’re waiting, Mason.

  • #22614
     Robert Fuller 
    Participant

    This is getting very The Game-esque. Keep close watch on your bank accounts.

  • #22615
     Mike 
    Participant

    I’ll show you mine if you show me yours @bcbishop

    If Mason is doing research on it all, I would hope he’d have some integrity to NOT share the files publicly. At that point, he’s just as bad and as at fault as whoever is doing it in the first place.

  • #22616
     Sean 
    Moderator

    @kevin – it’s been longer than that, we’ve been quizzed on that kind of thing since tension

  • #22617
     Brad Ruwe 
    Participant

    In regards to the email thing, my email is fairly public. Anyone who comes across my portfolio site can pull it from my resume. So it’s entirely possible he got my email just from a basic search online.

  • #22618
     Cristen 
    Participant

    @mike the contract mentioned that you four would be kept separate and not assigned to an “actor” until whatever Exhibit C is was enacted. Do you think this might mean you’ll all be contacted by someone eager to gain your confidence soon?

  • #22619
     Mike 
    Participant

    @wanda102 – getting contacted by Mason makes me think we are already there…but makes me wonder if there will be an antithesis of Mason contacting others.

  • #22620
     Drew Huntley 
    Participant

    Seems odd that after the leak that exhibit C would not be altered or changed. The names were made public, so you think that would send ODSM scrambling. So if this is exhibit C, is this how they originally planned on rolling it out?
    Regardless this does feel very fishy and I would be careful.

  • #22621
     Jackie 
    Participant

    The Lust Experience, Chapter 4: The Ethics Committee. Mason Silver SOUNDS like some LA Noir name, with a very Yours Truly Johnny Dollar .

    Tread lightly, but if this is the change/collapse of the corrupt you were looking for, maybe it starts here, in a pile of paperwork? Al Capone got caught on income tax evasion, not his true criminal nonsense.

  • #22622
     Anonymous

    After the HiB day and the events that transpired the same night, I am wary.

  • #22623
     Winston Smith 
    Participant

    Some thoughts:

    When they say “My company…” what company is that? What is their core business? What is Mason Silver’s position/role within the company? What do they do, and what led them to follow Tension in the first place? Why are they “interested” at all?

    He’s been hearing “unsubstantiated reports”, that are concerning from an outsider’s standpoint. Where is he getting his information, and how much does he have?

    What’s their interest in exploring the datamining of players? Do they want to expose the breadth of the data collection, or does they want to piggyback on it? If this data is going to be exposed, how will that occur? A lot of it is very private, sensitive data that people would not want shared in public. Does this researcher follow ethical disclosure practices? What are they doing to prevent further abuses of the information that they uncover?

    In the last few weeks, they’ve seen the release, and selling of “Participant” files on TOR. Are those the same people that were contacted? Were they contacted specifically because it was their information that was uncovered? Why else would a researcher contact THAT particular group of people in Exhibit C, as opposed to a broader sampling of participants? Is there more information being leaked about those people than is being leaked about the rest of us?

    If participant data is being leaked on TOR, shouldn’t those people be given the URLs, so they can see for themselves what data is being leaked, so they are able to make an informed choice as to what they want to do about it?

  • #22624
     Winston Smith 
    Participant

    I also wonder…is Mason his first name, or his title?

  • #22629
     superstar 
    Participant

    Mason Silver = “lives ransom”. Just sayin’.

  • #22630
     Brad Ruwe 
    Participant

    Got a reply from @masons72.

    “Thank you, we have teams looking into the how and why of your data being shared in various places but of particular note to us is that we see that you have personally shared a great deal of private information and we would like to follow up on that in particular. Did you share this information of your own free will or were you coerced or blackmailed into doing s.o? Also, do you have any specific examples of ways that sharing this personal information has affected your life outside of the boundaries of the experiment.”

    My response was basically that any information I’ve shared has been, for the most part, already out there online. I’m generally an open book. Also said that there’s really not been any effects outside of the experience, other than a few of you knowing about that bit of info I shared in that Noah task. Nothing too monumental.

  • #22631
     Brad Ruwe 
    Participant

    Oh, I did also ask about what information they were supposedly able to pull on me specifically, and where that info was being found. Maybe they’re getting some personal info I didn’t actively share with the experience?

  • #22632
     Megan 
    Participant

    Hang on did it say “experiment” or “experience?”

  • #22633
     Mike 
    Participant

    Thanks for sharing @nothenrygale

    I got a reply as well

    “We have a team looking into the reports of the TOR sharing but you may be of help in other ways. In particular, what was rumored to be one of the more concerning ethical breaches lobbed against The Lust and Tension Experiment. This will sound odd, but do you have any knowledge of family members, friends or associates being contacted by outside forces looking for information about you? This would be information regarding your current well being as it applies to the amount of time you spend on these ARGs and Immersive Theaters. A particularly troubling aspect, and one that may may make it harder to decipher, is that these people may have been advised that it is better to not disclose that they were actually contacted in the first place.

    I suppose we should start to untangle this complicated matter by asking if anyone has been concerned by the fact that you are a participant in these worlds?”

    Interesting on the different approaches they’re taking. You with info you shared and me with possible friends and family getting info for…third parties?

    WHAT IS REAL ANYMORE?

    WHAT IS REAL LIFE ANYMORE?

  • #22634
     Brad Ruwe 
    Participant

    @coryphella Experiment. What I put down is copied exactly as it was received in the email.

  • #22635
     Megan 
    Participant

    @nothenrygale – got it, @mike‘s was the same. and I remember Noah referring to it as an “experiment” too.

  • #22636
     Drew Huntley 
    Participant

    Yeah, didn’t Noah refer to Tension as Horace’s experiment multiple times?
    Either way that’s weird terminology to refer to an immersive theater experience.

  • #22637
     Kevin 
    Participant

    These replies sound less like someone concerned about your well being and more like someone conducting research on your behavior. I realize that doesn’t totally hold up because they’re coloring your perspective by painting it all in a negative light.

    There’s also something going off in my head making me think that this could be more phishing. The questions @mike and @nothenrygale received back are fairly innocuous, but be it’s just a small step to asking them to reveal more personal information to confirm that the info they’re seeing is correct.

  • #22638
     Brad Ruwe 
    Participant

    @kevin Absolutely. It’s why I asked what information they have about me specifically. This has “cold reading” vibes to me. Making it seem like they know more about us than they really do.

  • #22639
     Megan 
    Participant

    @wintermute – not entirely weird, I have some research that discusses immersive theatre as behavioral research. But yeah, Noah referred to this as Horace’s experiment.

  • #22640
     Megan 
    Participant

    @mike – do you know (or have you suspected) any civilians being contacted?

  • #22641
     Anonymous

    No email responses yet or else my phone would have yelled at me.

  • #22642
     Andrew Kasch 
    Participant

    I just got a reply to… Seems they want information from my Tension days:

    “Thank you Andrew, one of the more frustrating aspects of this entire ordeal is that every thread that we seem to pull and pursue has had a double fail safe of being written into their narrative as part of universe’s fiction. Do you personally have any specific examples of actual harm, ethic violations or breaches of agreed upon conduct or rules?

    We are currently looking to speak to any active cast members, so far, most if not all of our calls, and emails have gone unanswered.

    If you personally don’t, do you know anyone who might?

    Also, do these particular numbers mean anything to you? 9991, 1112, 4321 mean anything to you? ”

    This is a screen grab from my original OOA survey.
    I don’t have my Tension notes in front of me, but those numbers ring a bell. Do they jog anyone’s memory?

    • This reply was modified 2 years, 1 month ago by  Andrew Kasch.
  • #22644
     Andrew Kasch 
    Participant

    Update: I put the numbers into my e-mail search and 9991 was my iConfidant number. Still looking for the others…

  • #22645
     Megan 
    Participant

    1112 is @chelsea

  • #22646
     Cassandra 
    Participant

    I think we should tell him about the Hostess in Black who was going off about this and went silent/back on her word suddenly.

  • #22647
     Mike 
    Participant

    @coryphella – I have no idea…but if that is happening, their timing with my personal life is on point because I would never suspect anything. I hate admitting this, but they know what the hell they’re doing.

  • #22648
     Anonymous

    For the record I never got an iConfidant number. Only received a “:-)” in the subject line.

  • #22649
     Lia 
    Participant

    @coryphella Damn. Could it be a typo for @blondie‘s 3241?

  • #22650
     Jackie 
    Participant

    Do we still have access to that Iconfidant spread sheet someone made? Mine is 4634

  • #22651
     Megan 
    Participant

    @lilmsfancpants – that’s what I was wondering, or if we have @blondie‘s number wrong.

  • #22652
     Lia 
    Participant
  • #22653
     Chelsea 
    Participant

    Welp. Why is my iConfidant number on this paper? @kasch‘s is written next to his name, suggesting the assignment. Mine is in the corner and is underlined. Whoever 4321 is, they are important and might have a missing piece. They might be connected to me and Kasch somehow. @thebuz never got a number. He’s my first guess, but that doesn’t appear to be it, at least not yet. Maybe these aren’t actually iConfidant numbers, but it seems obvious that they are.

    Hey Kasch, maybe ask in your response what the connection between the numbers is and see what Mason says? Maybe tell him you figured out two, and that knowing how they are all related could help figure out who the third is?

  • #22654
     Andrew Kasch 
    Participant

    Well, now… this is an interesting turn of events. I want to put out the 4321 number like an Amber Alert. Can anyone out there shed some light on this?

    Good idea, @chelsea. I’m gonna see if Mason has found anything else out…

  • #22655
     Anonymous

    So… I emailed iConfidant and asked what my number was.

    Maybe she’ll get back to me though I’m not holding my breath. But it was worth a shot right?

  • #22656
     Bryan Bishop 
    Participant

    @theladyj For historical reference, here’s a link to the spreadsheet – no mention of 4321.

  • #22657
     Lawrence Meyers 
    Participant

    We are currently looking to speak to any active cast members, so far, most if not all of our calls, and emails have gone unanswered.

    SUS.

  • #22658
     Jackie 
    Participant

    MVPs all around. Look at that beautiful spread sheet. <3

    What if it’s a player who has walked away?

  • #22659
     Bryan Bishop 
    Participant

    @larry You happen to know an active cast member, no? You might want to get in touch with The Masonator.

  • #22660
     Chelsea 
    Participant

    Another thought. In the “consultation” we were at back in April, Marcus asked me if I was aware of any unethical behavior during Tension. Could Mason be connected to the investors, who are still looking for info? Maybe after the whole spill with The Hostess in Black, they are trying other outlets to get any kind of intel?

    More questions for you peeps in contact with Mason: Can we figure out if this is actually a fake company, a story company? Any hints in the emails that suggest they are coming from the investors? (TENSION being in all caps, access to Kasch’s registration form, contacting people listed in Exhibit C, etc.)

  • #22661
     Andrew Kasch 
    Participant

    Mason never gave his company’s name.

  • #22662
     Lawrence Meyers 
    Participant

    @kasch

    Why don’t you send Mason a note and tell him that I can probably persuade at least one, and maybe up to five, of the actors to get in touch with him?

    Let’s see what happens.

  • #22663
     Megan 
    Participant

    Regarding the use of the word “experiment,” it went as far back as the OOA Guide’s post last year: “Please understand that The Tension Experience is a paranoia, fear based experiment. We use personal information and data collected to tailor the experience for each participant involved. By using this website you understand that we will go out of our way to create a unique experience based on YOU. Tension will blur the lines between reality and fiction. We will use actors, emails, phone calls, live video streams, in person events, and just about every other avenue to get inside your head. At any time you wish to end your experience with us please email TheTensionExperience@gmail.com. Upon your request all information will be deleted from our servers, and your Participation will immediately come to an end”

  • #22664
     Andrew Kasch 
    Participant

    @larry Good idea! I’ll wait for his response and then make that proposal!

  • #22665
     Andrew Kasch 
    Participant

    Mason replied…

    “Thank you Andrew for your openness and willingness to talk to me.

    I would be very grateful for any direct contact you could offer as it related to cast. I have a spreadsheet with what appears to be 70+ cast members, but so far, not a single response.

    I seem to be running into a wall here, that most people that I am able to communicate with assume I am somehow affiliated with Tension.

    iConfidant. Looking at it now, we have access to your correspondence and I see now in the subject line the 9991. Thank you for connecting those dots. These files are dense, and you just saved me a few hours of work. I appreciate it!

    M”

    Then…

    “Actually YES Andrew, due to you turning me on to the iConfidant number I was able to cross 4321 with a T. Winters.”

    Paging @taysavestheday

  • #22666
     Andrew Kasch 
    Participant

    First off, it looks like Mason’s access to Tension/Lust material is dense.

    Second, I am completely baffled by the iC connection between @taysavestheday and myself. What does it mean?? Any ideas, T?

  • #22667
     Mike 
    Participant

    @kasch – it’s so obvious (sarcasm)

    Andrew and Taylor both have 6 letters
    Kasch and Winters added up equals 12, which is 6+6
    We know you are number 1
    Reflections of the 6s would be 9s

    Therefore…9991

    How did you not see that? Geez

  • #22668
     Anonymous

    Only thing that springs to mind is that you both either left or had issues with iconfidant, @kasch and @taysavestheday

  • #22669
     Anonymous

    Then again, what transpired with iconfidant prior to the reveal was fuzzy.

  • #22670
     Megan 
    Participant

    Did @chelsea have iconfidant issues?

  • #22671
     Taylor Winters 
    Participant

    @kasch I’m not sure what our connection would be. it seems we had very different Iconfidant experiences. I do find it interesting that my Iconfidant number is being identified at all since I abandoned that side of me. Maybe that would be of interest to Mason and his data collection

  • #22672
     Jackie 
    Participant

    Right @mamatato, @kasch had his experience all sabotaged. @taysavestheday, rejected his in the end.

  • #22673
     Kevin 
    Participant

    So it appears there are iConfidant files of people outside of Exhibit C on the dark web. Who actually released them though? The obvious candidate is OSDM, but what would their goal really be there? Making money, I suppose, but it doesn’t seem like the money that could be gained would outweigh them being the only people to have this kind of in depth information on people.

  • #22674
     Cristen 
    Participant

    @kevin yeah I don’t think OSDM would intentionally sell themeselves out like that. But…our pal Noah did steal all those files, no? Maybe it’s about time he sold out his pops properly. If someone’s lighting a fire, @maddyxxx is as good a candidate to be holding the matches as any.

  • #22675
     Megan 
    Participant

    So Noah, Mr. I’m Here For You, might be selling our personal info on the dark web?

  • #22676
     Anonymous

    Could potentially be the Investors due to needing to recoup whatever money was lost during Tension. Given all the talk about money, threats to Darren and the “dog lover”, and those incriminating emails that @nothenrygale found, would it be strange if they sold info to raise funds?

  • #22677
     Chloe 
    Participant

    My main curiosity is exactly where or to what consumer are they selling our info to? From rumors I’ve heard about the dark web, it can go from simple drug selling to torture and murder, what the heck are they giving some of us over to?

  • #22678
     Megan 
    Participant

    They do sell people on the dark web.

  • #22679
     Chloe 
    Participant

    Well that’s…disturbing…

  • #22680
     Cristen 
    Participant

    @coryphella it’s not necessarily that he’s actually selling our data, it’s that he has the data and it would be easy enough for him to convince someone that OSDM was doing so. Just another in what’s hopefully a series of efforts to undo his father’s work .

  • #22681
     Megan 
    Participant

    @chloe I’m here for you.

  • #22682
     Mustafa Said 
    Participant

    Feels dangerous that all the info they’ve got on us is now fair game to be sold off. Who knows what that info could be used for?

    I wonder if the Investors are really so desperate for money that they’d turn to the dark web to obtain it. I get the impression they’re more well off than needing to go to such lengths.

  • #22683
     Kortney 
    Participant

    I was really hoping everything iC came to a close and wasn’t going to be brought back up but now it’s certainly coming back.

    Assuming this means we will see Sabrina show up this chapter.

  • #22684
     Jackie 
    Participant

    Indeed people are sold on the dark web! But even more distressing, parts of people, kidneys, livers, lungs, also bring in quite a pretty profit.

    #REPO!anyone?

  • #22685
     Chloe 
    Participant

    Ohhhhh don’t mention Repo around me, I’ll start singing all over the place XD

  • #22686
     Maranda 
    Participant

    @kasch @nothenrygale I don’t understand why you (and the other people mentioned as part of Exhibit C) are still talking to Mason Silver without first verifying that he is who he says he is, and that what he claims is true. He knows perfectly well that we’re going to entertain the possibility that he is part of the Experience, so him not providing some way to verify his identity is SUS.

    I also think @bcbishop made a very good point (“the data collection scheme itself [might be] just another fictional invention, and we have no idea what the real hidden agenda is at all”) but to me it seems counterproductive for the OSDM to have gone to the trouble of maintaining the Tension questionnaires, having Sabrina get info out of us through iC, etc. without having a purpose for all that data, even if it’s nothing more than selling it for quick cash.

  • #22687
     Shaun 
    Participant

    @kortneydarling why were you hoping for iC to be closed?

    I was hoping for Stacey to come back with a real beta test of her original iConfidant code! I believe she was threatening that at some point.

  • #22688
     Lawrence Meyers 
    Participant

    @izryn Because you keep your friend close, but your enemies closer. The best intelligence agents embed themselves within the organization without it knowing.

    Okay, wait, I just realized what that COULD sound like and I AM NOT A PLANT.

  • #22690
     Chelsea 
    Participant

    It appears we have hit a wall with figuring out the connection. Let’s change our approach. If we ask a different question we might be able to put pieces together. Let’s focus on who. Who wrote the numbers? If we figure out who, when it was written, why it was written and why the three of us are being connected might fall into place. Or at least be pointed at.

    Who all has had access to these questionnaires in the last year?

  • #22691
     Winston Smith 
    Participant

    Yeah, @coryphella has a point. Much of the time when things like this occur, it ends up being either insiders/former insiders, or hackers using their access to siphon data, and sell it for their own purposes. This could easily be Noah, or someone else selling data on the sly.

    PII(Personally Identifiable Information) is a huge subject in infosec circles these days. Legislatures around the country and the world are implementing or debating laws to protect PII, and how it can be used, stored, or shared. The problem is defining what that even means. It’s not just things like your SSN, or credit card number, or name. It’s any pieces of information that together can be used to identify you.

    3 pieces of information, your Date of Birth, gender, and Zip Code are all it takes to uniquely identify 87% of the US population. Imagine how many advertisers know at least that much about you without even having to know your name. Imagine how much more than that they know. Imagine how many times you’ve said “Oh, I don’t care about *that*. Who’s gonna do anything with that?” in regards to a piece of information about yourself.

    The sad part is that your credit card number is only worth about $1.50 on the darkweb. That’s all your identity is worth to these fuckers, because they have *millions* of you, hundreds of millions even.

    Your medical/insurance information is worth a bit more. Why do you think Anthem was breached? They weren’t after credit cards, they were after things like your mother’s maiden name, your social security number, your previous addresses, and your pre-existing conditions. That’s good shit, so it boosts your value to about $5.

    Intelligence agencies get most of their intelligence by making connections, and insights from the information that people don’t think is important enough to keep secret. Most of it is grunt work sourced on publicly available information. If you can do all that with just a little bit more, imagine what you can do with a lot more? There’s a reason that In-Q-Tel, the CIA’s venture capital fund invested in a number of Social Networking companies.

    When OPM(The Office of Personnel Management) was breached, the infiltrators stole fingerprints, and the contents of background checks on everyone who’d ever been interviewed for a security clearance. Imagine how hard it might become to send our own spies into countries like China as a consequence of them having all that information about millions of our government employees? Imagine how many were outed because of it. Imagine all the compromising information that might have come up in background checks that can now be potentially used to blackmail people into trading secrets. The possibilities are almost limitless. It’s the largest american intelligence disaster in modern history, and most people don’t know or care because it doesn’t really feel connected to them personally.

    The Cuban Missile Crisis kicked off because someone at CIA measured the length of a cylinder on a photograph of a ship, and was able to deduce that they contained a particular model of medium range ballistic missile. The Soviets weren’t idiots, they didn’t have missiles laying on the deck. We busted them because nothing actually comes in boxes that size. Someone said “Ehh, what are they going to glean from that? There could be *anything* in that box.” Except…why would you build a box of exactly those dimensions, unless you were shipping something of those particular dimensions inside it? Why not shipping containers? There really aren’t a lot of things with those particular dimensions that would be on the back of a ship from the USSR to Cuba. If you see a box just big enough to stuff a missile in, on the back of a freighter to Cuba, shipped from the USSR, and you can’t think of anything else that could reasonably be in the box, well…then…guess what’s probably in the box?

    I cringe every time I hear someone say “Oh, what are they gonna do with THAT?” Because, I know…the answer is waaaaaaaaaay more than you think. Nobody wants to be that concerned though, it’s exhausting caring that much about so many things. We don’t have the bandwidth to cope with it all, so we parse it down and start eliminating the things from our focus that just don’t seem all that important right now. “With so much important shit in my life, where am I going to find the time to care about people who know my fucking zip code?” You thought it, right? Or maybe it was “But, I want people to know my birthday.” The point is not that you should hide your birthday from everyone. The point is that you should be aware of how little information it actually takes to compromise you in ways that you might not expect. Even if you’re open about this information, you should be cognizant of its value, and understand how it can be used. What Tension/Lust has on you is A LOT, and much of it is extremely high value information that actually *can* be used to exploit you in any number of ways.

    When a poisonous snake looks almost exactly like a desert rock, it’s called “camouflage”. The snake is exploiting that *exact* same “feature” of our animal brains. It doesn’t matter that the snake doesn’t understand why it works. It just knows that it eats. Every animal that was eaten by it thought “Ehh, that’s just a rock.” Most of the time it was just a rock, that’s why snakes look like rocks.

  • #22692
     Maranda 
    Participant

    @chelsea I assumed that the numbers were notes written by Mason Silver on a physical print-out of @kasch‘s questionnaire. What I find interesting is that none of us could figure out who 4321 was, even while knowing they were iConfidant numbers, but somehow Mason Silver had access to information connecting 4321 and Taylor. That means the data he is working with has been lifted from the iConfidant servers themselves, and not from our end.

  • #22693
     Lawrence Meyers 
    Participant

    Mason Silver = Samson Live(r)

    Oh well. Close.

  • #22694
     Taylor Winters 
    Participant

    Just got fully caught up. I find it very interesting that Mason was able to cross reference my number with my name. With inside information like that, I definitely agree with people saying that someone is leaking or selling information to outside sources. However, why would Mason want said data? What is his goal? If he wants power, is he ex-ODSM? If he wants to use it as leverage, does he have a vendetta against them? But overall, I need more before I start handing over information.

    Regarding the link between @kasch, @chelsea, and I, I’m not sure. I think the three of us need to get together and begin to compare notes. I would assume the link is iconfidant related.

  • #22695
     Taylor Winters 
    Participant

    The link could be one person who dropped, one person who was removed, and one person who stuck with it–that would give him the appropriate sample to get the data he needed. In a true focus group, you want people who love the product, those dissatisfied, and those on the fence. You’d find out why people love it, why people don’t, and how to transition those on the fence to the position you want.

    But with that being said, what is Mr. Silver’s interest in this. What is his stake? Why does he care?

  • #22696
     Lia 
    Participant

    @winstonsmith I am straight shook. That’s SO SCARY.

  • #22697
     Mike 
    Participant

    @taysavestheday

    However, why would Mason want said data?

    This hasn’t been proven…yet. His initial email is about ethics in immersive theatre/haunts and specifically data mining and that info being sold when we all think it’s for entertainment.

    Is it sketchy that he has the file? Of course, but if his company is researching, it makes sense as to why he has it. We just need to get him talking more about it all.

  • #22698
     Robert Fuller 
    Participant

    Maybe his company is “the Company.” That would explain why he has so much access to so much information.

  • #22699
     Taylor Winters 
    Participant

    @mike, maybe he is just an academic looking into ethics in immersive theater, here to right the wrongs of data being sold by immersive entertainment. But I feel like things are usually much deeper than what meets the eye. As @chelsea said, I think we need to look at who wrote our numbers and what their motivation is. And I agree completely, Mason needs to talk more for us to make an informed decision.

  • #22700
     Drew Huntley 
    Participant

    Damn well said @winstonsmith.

    Has anybody probed @masons72 in a follow up email specifically about the research company he may be representing? Or is everyone still waiting for follow up responses?

    Also if he may on the academic side like @taysavestheday mentioned that would change the level of maliciousness of his inquiry. A motive for profit vs one for scholastic purposes.

  • #22701
     Winston Smith 
    Participant

    @lilmsfancpants Yeah, but tomorrow how many people knowing that would still happily install a GPS tracker in their car that lets their insurance company track everywhere they go, everywhen, all so they can save 10% on their auto insurance?

    Think about all the people in the US having affairs right now. Would it creep them out to think that their insurance company may have the ability to detect their affair almost immediately just by spotting the deviation in their driving habits? Maybe they don’t actually care if their customer is having an affair, but can you imagine what else might they want to detect that actually is relevant to their interests and not ours?

    • This reply was modified 2 years, 1 month ago by  Winston Smith.
  • #22703
     Lauren Bello 
    Moderator

    1) I don’t think these are necessarily PRIMARILY iConfidant numbers. HCDI used the same numbers. OSDM probably does the same. The files they have on us aren’t just iConfidant files…they’re an amalgamation of Tension info, iC info, and every other data-harvesting resource of the OSDM. So these numbers popping up doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with iC specifically.

    2) “…one of the more frustrating aspects of this entire ordeal is that every thread that we seem to pull and pursue has had a double fail safe of being written into their narrative as part of universe’s fiction…” In other words, just because something’s in-game – be it human sacrifice, brainwashing technology, or fertility ritual – doesn’t mean it isn’t also happening in real life. Interesting.

  • #22704
     Anonymous

    Logged on wrong account, reposting shortly from my account.

  • #22706
     Brad Ruwe 
    Participant

    Wait…. if he’s trying to contact cast and people involved with the experience, people who may be willing to talk about inappropriate behavior by The Investors and those in charge…

    Do I give him Tina’s phone number? Do we think she’d be willing to help expose what’s going on? Can we trust this Mason guy?

  • #22707
     Anonymous

    No, @nothenrygale . He absolutely cannot be trusted for he is the spawn of Satan. *sarcasm*

  • #22708
     Chelsea 
    Participant

    Eh, @nothenrygale and @mamatato, I don’t think we can trust him. This has a “We have some rogue people we can’t control on the loose and we are trying to reign them in” feeling to me. Again, I was asked about ethical behavior in the consultation BY the investors. I think Mason could be an investor looking for more info in disguise.

  • #22709
     Megan 
    Participant

    This may be a dumb question and I’m real good at asking those, but…why would the investors be interested in ethical behavior here?

  • #22710
     Winston Smith 
    Participant

    I don’t think the investors are interested in behaving ethically, I think they’re interested in what others know, or think about the extent of their unethical behavior, and what consequences it might bring for them if we start fighting back.

    • #22711
       Anonymous

      I don’t think the investors are interested in behaving ethically, I think they’re interested in what others know, or think about the extent of their unethical behavior, and what consequences it might bring for them if we start fighting back.

      THIS.

  • #22712
     Drew Huntley 
    Participant

    Running down the assumption that this is an investor or someone reporting to an investor. The desire to track down actors that’ll talk could be a preemptive mole hunt. Finding the actors that are willing to breach contract and then dealing with them accordingly.

  • #22713
     Anonymous

    If this is a case of tracking down actors to rip them a new one for potential breach of contract, then my uselessness and lack of helpfulness will be amplified. Because the reality is how can they know who is more likely to breach? It’ll become a proverbial witch hunt.

  • #22714
     Anonymous

    By the way, I am the only one of the four who has not received a response to my email.

  • #22715
     Bryan Bishop 
    Participant

    It seems like we’ve got two options here, really. We can trust nobody at all (Mason or otherwise), because everybody could potentially be part of some nefarious plot. We’ve seen reversal upon reversal already, including some from within the community itself.

    Or we could cautiously take him at his word, and engage with somebody that seems to be looking into some of the same violations that have angered @111error and others. Absolute trust in this world is foolish, but partial trust is the only way to move forward and learn.

    I say pass along Tina’s info, @nothenrygale.

  • #22716
     Brad Ruwe 
    Participant

    @wintermute That would make sense to a certain degree. Exploit any potential relationships we might have with some of the cast. But what @mamatato pointed out would conflict with that. She’s fairly new to all of this and wouldn’t have any contacts with the cast. Why would she be included if that’s the case?

  • #22717
     Megan 
    Participant

    @mamatato – I have no doubt you’ve been singled out here for a reason – stop putting yourself down.

  • #22718
     Anonymous

    It’s not so much putting myself down, @coryphella. I don’t understand what in this scenario I have to offer. I was not around for Tension and I’ve been in and out of Lust since it started. I’m not resistance. I’m not OSDM. Looking at the evidence, I am the outlier.

    Maybe there is something that I am missing that is only known to Mr. Silver, but in terms of information giving pertaining to actors, I don’t have access to that. In terms of ethics, I don’t know what is and isn’t ethical in immersive theater. I’m a baby when it comes to this.

  • #22719
     Drew Huntley 
    Participant

    @nothenrygale yeah you are correct that it doesn’t completely fit.

    To be clarify my position, I agree with @bcbishop that partial trust is the path that seems the best option right now.

  • #22720
     Brad Ruwe 
    Participant

    @bcbishop Absolutely. Especially given his desires seem to line up with @111error and the BOS I’m absolutely willing to hear him out and help him if I’m able to. IF he turns out to be legit of course. This is a “proceed with caution” situation for sure. I’d hate to open someone up to punishment if he turns out to be a trap for BOS / actors inside willing to help.

  • #22721
     Kortney 
    Participant

    @shaun Cause I had told information to my iC I didn’t really want to be public, and it was kind of threatening when Sabrina had mentioned me in the “Thank You”s because of it.

    All the information I had told them is now null and void, but still.

  • #22723
     Andrew Kasch 
    Participant

    Trust is a tricky game, as many of us have discovered over the last two years.

    But I’m not gonna let a little thing like paranoia step in the way of whatever path is laid out before me. We haven’t met a single person who didn’t have an agenda, and it’s better to apologize than ask permission. So what the hell…

    I’m going to work with Mason until I find a reason not to, whether he’s OSDM, BOS, or some poor schmuck who will eventually wind up meeting Bob Jones or Sam and his spooky skeletons.

  • #22724
     Meghan Mayhem 
    Participant

    In wondering who is getting what info, from where, and why…
    I thought again about our questionnaires. Who has/had/will have access to them.

    Here’s what I know to be true as far as I can track:
    -Horace and The Investors had physical possession of the files.
    -On May 1st, Noah and I broke into the warehouse and stole the files. Noah took them with him when he left.
    -On May 10th, Horace called me, demanding to know where his files were. Later in the call he discussed the “uncomfortable agreement” he had made with Noah in exchange for Sarah’s safety. This would lead us to believe that Noah and Horace made a deal which did not include the return of Horace’s files. Horace seems to think I had them, or knew their whereabouts.
    -So this would lead us to the conclusion that the last person we are able to factually track as being in physical possession of the files was Noah. Where/who/why since then is a big question.

    Another thing worth mentioning is that the last time we heard from that Mary Poppins cunt Joyce was July 9th. On this day she was very annoyed. Annoyed at the BOS. Annoyed at those “falling for it”. Quite rattled. And in 2 separate comments in 2 separate threads, she said the same phase.

    “You are all noted and accounted for. All.”

    Seems like a thing she reeeallly wanted us to understand.

    Any chance Miss Sass is lying back and thinking of England, whilst also thinking of us. Keeping track. Writing down numbers. Noting them?

  • #22725
     Cristen 
    Participant

    @meghanmayhem good point, and it would make it worth noting that Joyce/HCDI tagged the question responses she gave us with our iconfidant numbers, as well. We and our actions are certainly noted and accounted for. Tagged, even. It’s the most convenient kind of coincidence, Mason also having those numbers in his findings. The who and where and why the information is in his hands I guess we find out by seeing what Mason has to tell us. And why not? Caution is good, curiosity is better.

  • #22726
     Andrew Kasch 
    Participant

    The real bottom line is that it makes no logical sense why a dude like Mason would only contact Exhibit C names to get intel. Which tells me that this is another one of the OSDM’s tests and part of whatever “plan” was leaked in the docs.

    Also, if an entity outside the OSDM had classified documents – and by the sound of the e-mails, they have access to damn near EVERYTHING – you would think that Horace or Joyce would be running interference with us right now.

  • #22727
     Cristen 
    Participant

    I dunno @kasch, I don’t think Joyce likes us very much anymore.

  • #22728
     Megan 
    Participant

    @mamatato – take it from someone who is not only the queen of putting herself down but also who has been here longer than most of the currently active players – there’s a reason you’re on that list, even if you & the rest of us don’t know what it is right now. Nothing is random.

    I find it really interesting that the possibility that @maddyxxx has sold our files on the dark web has emerged. A week ago we were theorizing he was our lord and savior. He was here to help us face our weaknesses. I’m not being flip, I bought it eventually too. Now, today, the discussion is on trust. Are we going to hear from him at all this chapter? Has he vanished? Is this the part where we are expected to trust him in his absence?

  • #22729
     Chelsea 
    Participant

    There are so many possibilities here, and we are no where near being able to narrow them down. Another option is that they had already been loaded to the web when Noah got the files. Joyce could have been hinting that they already had all of the info. I don’t think we need to go lighting the stake fires just yet.

  • #22730
     Megan 
    Participant

    Jesus Christ, I am not lighting any stake fires.

  • #22731
     Megan 
    Participant

    OK so back to what I was saying.

    I am married to a former evangelical Christian who occasionally gets annoying with the dramaturgy.
    Especially because I refuse to learn anything about Christianity. Worst. Lutheran. Ever.

    What I’m trying very poorly to suggest is that this might be the part of the whole Jesus story thing where we are supposed to have faith in Jesus!Noah. Or something. That he didn’t do it. But if you’d rather see me as the burning Jesus at the stake type that wouldn’t be the first time.

    Also recalling someone – @larry? – who had a theory that some of us might fill the roles of the disciples? My husband insists that I’m some dude named “doubting Thomas.”

  • #22732
     Andrew Kasch 
    Participant

    Update from Mason…

    I work for the Briarberg Foundation. However, this report was independently contracted by one of our board members.

  • #22733
     Chelsea 
    Participant

    Oooo! Who is this board member?!

    • This reply was modified 2 years, 1 month ago by  Chelsea.
  • #22735
     Hannah Schenck 
    Participant

    @kasch

    Update from Mason…

    I work for the Briarberg Foundation. However, this report was independently contracted by one of our board members.

    Briarberg… Carl(s)berg… Just saying ?? I’m sure @joycecarlberg is not involved in this whatsoever. Carry on…

  • #22736
     Kevin 
    Participant

    I wanted to do a quick run through of who the board member could be and what their motivations might be.

    New person: Most likely possibility, but not much to speculate on if true.

    Horace: A guy of his position probably sits on a number of boards. If it’s him, Mason (and the rest of Briarberg) could be unaware as this was “independently contracted”, or this supports the idea that the Briarberg Foundation and this research is a play by them.

    Noah: He could sit on some boards and if this is an attempt to burn Horace, it would fit in with his recent actions. This would mean he wasn’t the one who posted the info to the dark web.

    Joyce Carlberg: As @shankfx22 pointed out, the names are similar and could indicate a connection between the two. The “independently contracted” language would go against this though as the board member isn’t necessarily tied to the Briarberg Foundation’s normal interests.

    Stacey: Could sit on some boards and this could be another avenue for BOS to hit the OSDM.

    Anyone else it could be?

  • #22737
     Robert Fuller 
    Participant

    What’s most interesting to me about the e-mail is that he says they’ve been following Tension/Lust since the middle of last year. So who would have had cause to investigate it over a year ago, and why?

  • #22738
     Maranda 
    Participant

    It makes sense that Mason is only reaching out now. If OSDM/Horace kept both physical and digital copies of our files prior to May 1st, then he would have no reason to be upset if Noah took the physical files from the warehouse, as their digital copy is still with them. This suggests that Mason couldn’t have obtained these files from the dark web prior to May 1st, thus, he got access to them only in the last few months. If Noah was in sole possession of the files following the “uncomfortable agreement” with Horace, then he was the one who uploaded (or allowed them to be uploaded) to the dark web.

  • #22814
     Anonymous

    Just realized that my senile self might have been able to help out Mr. Silver but am now hesitating.

  • #22815
     Andrew Kasch 
    Participant

    Update: Mason called Stephanie again tonight. They are Skyping tomorrow. Very curious to see what we learn…

  • #22834
     Kristin 
    Participant

    Wasn’t sure if I should make a new thread as I received a similar email from Mason this morning…

    “My name is Mason Silver. I am sorry to email you out of the blue.

    I am doing research on the Tension/Lust Experience and the people who own and operate the company.

    I am in the midsts of putting together a report on ethics in immersive theater.

    Last night I heard your name and some personal information was divulged within one of their activations.

    Were you aware this was happening, and was it done with your consent?

    I would love to speak about this further if you are so inclined. “

  • #22835
     Kristin 
    Participant

    SUS

  • #22838
     Brad Ruwe 
    Participant

    Oooooh @creepsociety looks like you’re getting roped in with the Mason shenanigans. Be careful with him! I still don’t know where his intentions truly lie.

  • #23063
     Anonymous

    I received an email response from Mason that confirmed what I thought regarding the lack of response from him. I had contacted him a couple of times and in my last email to him I did tell him that it looked like he no longer required my services.

    His response today was: I reached out and you along with others offered little to no insight or motivation to help – – just tried to shoot holes, and offer rebuttals. All to soon you will come to a realization what this is, and who the good guys really are. As the old saying goes, you’ve made your bed…

  • #23065
     Bryan Bishop 
    Participant

    …gulp.

    Are Briarberg, inelegant though their tactics may be, trying to investigate The Investors themselves?

  • #23066
     Lauren Bello 
    Moderator

    His response today was: I reached out and you along with others offered little to no insight or motivation to help – – just tried to shoot holes, and offer rebuttals. All to soon you will come to a realization what this is, and who the good guys really are. As the old saying goes, you’ve made your bed…

    OK, I really don’t like this guy.

    I think this self-righteous, punishing response rules out the possibility that he’s in this to help people. Clearly he’s not.

  • #23067
     Anonymous

    @bcbishop Perhaps. All I know is I am ready to wipe my hands.

  • #23068
     Brad Ruwe 
    Participant

    @mamatato Which is all kinda BS. My initial response answered all the questions he asked, though I guess I didn’t answer in the way he wanted. The thing is, I even mentioned Tina to him as being a possible source of info before I started to get super suspicious of his intentions. He had no response whatsoever to that.

    He just…. god what is with him?

  • #23069
     Anonymous

    @daela I responded with a pretentious shitty poem, so I’m not any better.

  • #23070
     Cristen 
    Participant

    Wow, Mason. If he’d been more forthcoming with his intentions and where he got his intel I think people would’ve been much more willing to help him out as best they could. His lack of transparency made him the mirror image of his enemies. But everyone thinks they’re saving the world, huh?

  • #23071
     Anonymous

    @nothenrygale I have thoughts that I will share with you later.

  • #23072
     Lauren Bello 
    Moderator

    Which is all kinda BS. My initial response answered all the questions he asked, though I guess I didn’t answer in the way he wanted. The thing is, I even mentioned Tina to him as being a possible source of info before I started to get super suspicious of his intentions. He had no response whatsoever to that.

    You know who this reminds me of? Benny.

    Last year, Benny showed up trawling for info, claiming he was “Addison’s” boyfriend. He begged us for help, a number of us PM’d him, and…he didn’t respond to a single one of us. Later, Tom Barrow (if that’s his real name) informed us that Benny had killed himself, implying that it was all our fault for not helping him. Even though plenty of us had tried.

    In retrospect, the fact that this information came from Tom Barrow, OSDM, seems very suspect.

    Last year, was Benny just a ploy of the OSDM? And this year, are the OSDM using Mason in the same way that they used Benny, to prime our emotions or get some sort of emotional data from us?

  • #23073
     Mustafa Said 
    Participant

    Curious to ask. What’s Mason’s email address? I kinda wanna try contacting him.

  • #23074
     Brad Ruwe 
    Participant

    @daela Very curious. That would make a bit of sense for me because I’ve been trying to find a way I can help “the cause” of the BOS in stopping the abuse of those in charge. The responses we’ve had between Sarah and myself do fit. Sarah, who doesn’t have any real connection to the cast, gets humiliated for being unable to help him. While I, who do have an actual potential source of info on The Investors, got ignored when I could actually help.

    Either way, don’t trust this Mason guy anymore so…

  • #23075
     Russell 
    Participant

    Uhm, yeaaahhh… @mamatato, that email response he sent to you is so .. odd. How can he claim no one has been helpful? My one interaction on the phone with him was me simply answering his questions as best I could. If I did not have any helpful information, it was not my fault and I was not deliberately hiding anything. It sounds like @nothenrygale made an effort, as others have…
    As @wanda102 suggested, perhaps the tactics he is employing is the problem, not his targets. (Heck, he ended our phone call with the clear insinuation he was going to potentially attempt entering my home or sending someone to my home when I was not present. To search for… who knows what?)
    My main issue is that it is so unclear as to what we could potentially have that might be useful to him.
    If he wants to meet for a drink and discuss immersive theater methods of engagement, I’d be down.
    But, obviously… that ain’t his main interest no matter what he claims.

  • #23076
     Jackie 
    Participant

    just tried to shoot holes, and offer rebuttals. All to soon you will come to a realization what this is, and who the good guys really are. As the old saying goes, you’ve made your bed…

    I don’t understand his Gage of success? He didn’t get the immediate keys to the kingdom? He inquired and yes, there was an (expected) level of sass, but everyone who was tapped, offered what they knew. Is he mad no one responded with fire, pitch forks, corporate espionage, or ‘burn it down’, (paging @genghistwan)?

    We’ve made our bed by being not well connected? For being participants? For not…being ‘it’? Boo. And we’re the assholes, because we didn’t make his job easier? Boo this man.

  • #23081
     Addison 
    Participant

    @daela – I’ve been trying to remember if we ever saw Benny in real life, or a photo of him, or anything, and I can’t remember ever seeing him. He existed in the journal, he existed briefly on the forums, but never in any physical capacity. I really wonder if he was a puppet account made by the OSDM.

    When he first showed up, appearing frantic and panicked and desperate, I shot him a note.. and looking back, it was a similarly unhelpful response like what Mason sent to @mamatato

    Addison Born Sent 1 year, 3 months ago
    Hey Benny – I’m still catching up on what happened.. and it looks like Gatekeeper4 or the OOA or someone has removed a bunch of your posts, but wanted to talk privately.

    What do you know about the OOA? What kind of info do you have on them?

    If what you’ve said is the truth, I need to know more. I think we all need to learn more..

    Deleted User Sent 1 year, 3 months ago
    even if I do tell you what we know, you will write it off as game or some fucking ARG.

    Can’t you see what they are doing, the best place for someone like this to hide is in plain sight.

    No info, just a “you don’t understand what’s going on, etc” response. If he wants people to trust him, he needs to allow himself to appear trustworthy. Hopefully he understands.

  • #23083
     Robert Fuller 
    Participant

    “All to soon you will come to a realization what this is, and who the good guys really are.”

    Oh, well, great! Then the mystery will be solved!

    Mason clearly has an ax to grind with Tension/Lust, and he can’t find any participants to fit his agenda (because everyone loves it) so he’s going after the actors. Which makes sense, I guess (since many of them clearly do have issues with it), but he’s going about it in a really odd, self-defeating way. He seems to want us to believe that he has some sort of inside information, but if he is a participant like @a said, he’s either lying or he somehow peaked behind the curtain and saw something he shouldn’t have. And maybe what he saw scared him, and maybe the fact that he saw it scared TPTB, either because it was some actionable offense or simply because it could potentially jeopardize the OSDM’s ultimate goal. Either way, I want to hear more from him.

  • #23085
     Anonymous

    Some venting thoughts about this thing with Mason:

    1) He is either the most brilliant conniving piece of work or he honestly doesn’t know what the fuck he is doing.

    2) Why is it every time I meet or hear from someone named Mason, they are a colossal douchenozzle?

    3) The asshole needs to learn how to not burn potential bridges and learn some fucking email etiquette. If you are posing as a researcher, be professional.

    I’m done. This wasn’t a productive note, but it felt good.

  • #23086
     Megan 
    Participant

    I don’t know about brilliant and conniving, but do you think it’s possible he wants us to think he’s inept?

  • #23087
     Anonymous

    Oh, well, looky here…As I was writing this, I received an email from our dearest, most lovely Mason.

    Mr. Musnicky,

    The email I sent earlier was sent in haste and in a moment that I was very heated. I regret sending it.

    No one knows who to believe, and who to trust. Maybe, that is the true genius of The Tension/Lust Experience. They have created so many characters, and meta storylines that any person with a conflicting agenda is looked at with suspicion and “in game”…

    I’m sorry I responded poorly,

    MS,

    I am going to be delivering my response promptly, but let me just peel off the duct tape keeping my dick in place. Ahh…that’s better. Just going to let that swing out for a little bit as I devise my response.

  • #23088
     Anonymous

    @coryphella I would say until my previous email where he revealed his true colors, I would say there was a combination of ineptness with an earnest desire to acquire information.

  • #23089
     Brad Ruwe 
    Participant

    Dying here over “Mr. Musnicky”

  • #23090
     Lauren Bello 
    Moderator

    I am going to be delivering my response promptly, but let me just peel off the duct tape keeping my dick in place. Ahh…that’s better.

    I like you.

  • #23091
     Megan 
    Participant

    It’s almost as though he figured out that you have something he needs.

  • #23092
     Anonymous

    @daela I like me too. However, I need to find some more tape. This thing gets irritating when its all out.

    @coryphella Perhaps. However, he might have burned a bridge. Hard to cross it once it’s burned…

  • #23170
     Russell 
    Participant

    So, I also received the blanket email last night that sounded like Mason… got his feelings hurt, I guess?

    I responded this morning with honesty… that I am confused that I got included in that message from him. Pointing out that I had tried to honestly answer every question he asked which led to him insinuating he might attempt to investigate my home on his own (as in breaking in, perhaps?), I simply stated I did not truly know who he was or what his intentions were.

    Good luck with that whole “search for the truth” angle he was selling.

  • #23194
     Violet 
    Participant

    I replied to Mason’s mass email…thought I’d see if I could poke the bear with a different approach.

    V: Mason,

    I’m a newcomer to this & don’t even live in the LA area…I’m on the other side of the country. I have nothing to offer but I’m curious what kind of damning evidence you have against…well, against whoever you’re after (is it Joyce? OSDM? the creators themselves?). Anything specific you could offer might help your case with some of the more skeptical players.

    M: Violet, there is so much I want to share with you.

    So much you do not yet understand.

    V: Try me. I’m here to learn & understand…myself, all this, everything.

    M: Can I call you?

    V: Yes, definitely open to talking. Can you give me about a half hour to get home?? [gives phone number]

    soooo…we’ll see what happens if he actually calls.

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